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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1439027, member: 112"]Winged - what about the thousands of NGC coins that have been upgraded 1 or 2 grades by PCGS ? </p><p><br /></p><p>Based on your logic, wouldn't that tell you that PCGS is typically 1 grade, and maybe 2, too high when they grade coins ?</p><p><br /></p><p>You see, that's the problem with playing this game of this happened to me or that happened to me. And then forming conclusions based on what happened to you. And it works the same going both directions.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then of course you have all of those examples that were graded by PCGS and then when resubmitted were upgraded by PCGS. And then if resubmitted again, upgraded yet again by PCGS. And there are even some that were upgraded 4 times - by PCGS. There's even some very well know coins, you might say famous even, that started out graded as AU53, by NGC, but ultimately got graded by PCGS at MS63.</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC and PCGS, <u>each</u> have graded over 20 million coins. That's a lot of coins ! And out of a sample size that large it is to be expected that each one of them would upgrade, downgrade, or cross at same grade - a great many coins. But it proves absolutely nothing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the deal, and this pretty much agreed on by most knowledgeable people. With some coins, PCGS is tougher on grading. With some coins, NGC is tougher on grading. And with some coins, they are equally tough on grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>But if you ask me, in today's world, neither one of them is tough enough on grading <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1439027, member: 112"]Winged - what about the thousands of NGC coins that have been upgraded 1 or 2 grades by PCGS ? Based on your logic, wouldn't that tell you that PCGS is typically 1 grade, and maybe 2, too high when they grade coins ? You see, that's the problem with playing this game of this happened to me or that happened to me. And then forming conclusions based on what happened to you. And it works the same going both directions. Then of course you have all of those examples that were graded by PCGS and then when resubmitted were upgraded by PCGS. And then if resubmitted again, upgraded yet again by PCGS. And there are even some that were upgraded 4 times - by PCGS. There's even some very well know coins, you might say famous even, that started out graded as AU53, by NGC, but ultimately got graded by PCGS at MS63. NGC and PCGS, [U]each[/U] have graded over 20 million coins. That's a lot of coins ! And out of a sample size that large it is to be expected that each one of them would upgrade, downgrade, or cross at same grade - a great many coins. But it proves absolutely nothing. Here's the deal, and this pretty much agreed on by most knowledgeable people. With some coins, PCGS is tougher on grading. With some coins, NGC is tougher on grading. And with some coins, they are equally tough on grading. But if you ask me, in today's world, neither one of them is tough enough on grading ;)[/QUOTE]
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