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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;treylxapi47, post: 1913622, member: 41863&quot;]Whoa whoa whoa Paul, I never said throw out the TPGs, I merely pointed out this particular practice and the problem it creates. I NEVER said throw out the TPGs.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I said was that the hobby would survive without them. That is a fact. Thats not even like up for debate, because it is a reality. We survived before them, we survived when many have gone under, and we (as collectors) will survive when the leading TPGs change hands and the quality deteriorates to the status of basement slabbers. No one here is advocating doing away with the TPG services, just merely addressing the fact that &#039;market acceptable&#039; is a term created by the people who have a vested interest in pushing sub par coins. Its not hard to see and its not hard to acknowledge, but for some reason many people flat out refuse to question what the TPGs <i>sometimes </i>put on the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am picking on this one focal point, not the whole TPGs modus operandi.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I made the point about CAC validating the grades. Thats a step in the right direction because at that point you have 5 independent opinions basically. You have the 3 graders at the TPG, CAC, and the collector. The problem with that scenario is that CAC doesnt indicate if a coin has been there if it fails to sticker, you also have to consider if CAC got it wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway I do not have the answer, I merely wish to let folks know that here is yet another reason to educate yourself. That the term Market Acceptable is a sales gimmick, and that the people who put forth such a system all have something to gain by doing so.</p><p><br /></p><p>Its like the term &#039;insurgent&#039; to me. Its just a BS term to hide behind while we were killing innocent men, women, and children in Iraq. The word didnt change the reality of what was happening, just like here. Net Grading and Market Acceptable simply mean to me that its ok to pass junk off because of the coins status and not its physical merits.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do NOT advocate for getting rid of the TPGs.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am NOT concerned about the money we &#039;collectors&#039; are losing.</p><p><br /></p><p>I AM concerned about people not realizing they could possibly be being taken advantage of by a fancy word that has somehow won a positive connotation, when in reality its like I described.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I am aware that this effects a relatively small portion of coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I realize I drone on and zoom in on pin-point subjects.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>