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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1913534, member: 112&quot;]You are, Paul is, Matt is, etc etc etc. Everybody is the market, the market is us, ALL of us ! You don&#039;t get to pick and choose and take 1 piece or 2 pieces of it out. The market is, always has been, and always will be, everybody involved. The TPGs, the dealers, the auction houses, the collectors - everybody combined is the market.</p><p><br /></p><p>And what are you mad or upset about Trey ? Based on your comments it seems that you are mad about you (with you being defined as collectors) not making money on coins while the TPGs and the dealers do. Well I got news for ya buddy, the market wouldn&#039;t exist if they didn&#039;t. It would just fade away.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if you&#039;re read any my old posts, you&#039;ve been a member for less than 2 years, you would have seen me say numerous times that 90% or more of collectors lose money on coins. And that&#039;s what you&#039;re complaining about isn&#039;t it ? Sounds like it is anyway, you don&#039;t see that as being fair. But it is fair and do you know why it is fair ? It is fair because the average collector isn&#039;t willing to spend the time, effort, money, and work, to learn what the dealers and TPGs know. Knowledge is power, knowledge is money, knowledge is valuable, knowledge is the essential ingredient. </p><p><br /></p><p>But let&#039;s get back to your point, that being that you don&#039;t like the market as it is and that you seemingly want to blame the TPGs and dealers for being the way it is. But you&#039;re leaving somebody out when you spread the blame around. You see the collectors are just as much to blame as anybody else is. Do you know why ? Because they allow it. They put up with it, they continue it, they let it happen. Eventually all of those coins that are sold to one dealer after another, they end up in the hands of a collector. But the market is a giant circle, for eventually all of those coins in the hands of a collector, they go right back into the market, they are sold to a dealer who starts the process all over again.</p><p><br /></p><p>But you&#039;d like the market to change, right ? Well, it can be changed. All you have to do is get all of the collectors to agree to do the same thing - stop buying coins until the grading system is changed. You take one link in that giant circle out, and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt. Think you can do that ? I&#039;ve tried for 15 years or more, nobody listens. Well, not enough listen anyway. And that&#039;s why collectors are just as much to blame for the market being the way it is as anybody else is. Nobody wants that circle to stop spinning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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