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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1913110, member: 15309"]While that seems like a very easy solution to the problem, I promise you that it is not. The problem is complex and both sides have valid arguments. Your argument is that every coin of a given series should be graded against the same standard, especially for strike, regardless of variations in procedures employed by the different mints from year to year. </p><p><br /></p><p>As a result, coins like the one Doug posted earlier would not qualify for an MS65 grade because the strike compared to the intended design is too weak. The coin shown below is the same coin Doug posted, but I have shown the slab photo rather than the beauty shot.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F5%2F9%2F5%2F10595757%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Therefore this coin would have to reside in an MS64 holder. But by limiting this coin to MS64 you effectively increase the range of quality for all MS64 1892-O Morgan Dollars because many will have MS65/66 surfaces but simply be limited to the MS64 grade due to the strike. A strike issue that plagues almost all of the coins issued that year by that mint. The result is that the coin shown above will be graded the same as the 1892-O MS64 Morgan Dollar shown below, a coin with clearly inferior surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F1%2F9%2F5%2F10195194%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Think of how many gem + grade 1892-O Morgan Dollars would be relegated to an MS64 grade despite the condition of their surfaces or luster which can vary greatly. Under your proposed system, you would have a large number of coins with the same numerical grade but with a wide range of quality in that grade. The "market", which is both collectors and dealers, would demand that the higher quality pieces trade at higher prices. The TPG's decision to take strike out of the equation for coins like the 1892-O Morgan Dollar effectively solves that problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>But that system creates another problem. What happens to the 1892-O Morgan Dollars that had a good enough strike to meet the criteria for gem grade? Under your proposed system, these coins would be conditional rarities and become very valuable because so few would meet the criteria. The coin shown below has a good strike for an 1892-O and would probably be good enough for gem grade.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F1%2F3%2F2%2F8132080%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The TPGs decision to market grade all 1892-O Morgan Dollars with regards to strike drastically increases the population of MS65 examples and would decrease the value of this coin considerably. But ask yourself this question: does this coin deserve to sell at a much higher price than the coin that Doug posted(1st one I posted)? If your answer is no, then I submit that you must agree with the TPG's decision to market grade these coins based on inherent strike weakness.</p><p><br /></p><p>Paul[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1913110, member: 15309"]While that seems like a very easy solution to the problem, I promise you that it is not. The problem is complex and both sides have valid arguments. Your argument is that every coin of a given series should be graded against the same standard, especially for strike, regardless of variations in procedures employed by the different mints from year to year. As a result, coins like the one Doug posted earlier would not qualify for an MS65 grade because the strike compared to the intended design is too weak. The coin shown below is the same coin Doug posted, but I have shown the slab photo rather than the beauty shot. [img]http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F5%2F9%2F5%2F10595757%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] Therefore this coin would have to reside in an MS64 holder. But by limiting this coin to MS64 you effectively increase the range of quality for all MS64 1892-O Morgan Dollars because many will have MS65/66 surfaces but simply be limited to the MS64 grade due to the strike. A strike issue that plagues almost all of the coins issued that year by that mint. The result is that the coin shown above will be graded the same as the 1892-O MS64 Morgan Dollar shown below, a coin with clearly inferior surfaces. [img]http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F1%2F9%2F5%2F10195194%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] Think of how many gem + grade 1892-O Morgan Dollars would be relegated to an MS64 grade despite the condition of their surfaces or luster which can vary greatly. Under your proposed system, you would have a large number of coins with the same numerical grade but with a wide range of quality in that grade. The "market", which is both collectors and dealers, would demand that the higher quality pieces trade at higher prices. The TPG's decision to take strike out of the equation for coins like the 1892-O Morgan Dollar effectively solves that problem. But that system creates another problem. What happens to the 1892-O Morgan Dollars that had a good enough strike to meet the criteria for gem grade? Under your proposed system, these coins would be conditional rarities and become very valuable because so few would meet the criteria. The coin shown below has a good strike for an 1892-O and would probably be good enough for gem grade. [img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F1%2F3%2F2%2F8132080%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] The TPGs decision to market grade all 1892-O Morgan Dollars with regards to strike drastically increases the population of MS65 examples and would decrease the value of this coin considerably. But ask yourself this question: does this coin deserve to sell at a much higher price than the coin that Doug posted(1st one I posted)? If your answer is no, then I submit that you must agree with the TPG's decision to market grade these coins based on inherent strike weakness. Paul[/QUOTE]
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