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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3090787, member: 24314&quot;]joecoincollect, posted: &quot;I&#039;m not so sure those hairlines weren&#039;t caused when you placed the medal in the flip. I believe you that you inspected it well before submission (before the flip), and sent it off securely in the box, but there&#039;s no proof that <i>you </i>didn&#039;t cause the hairlines when you placed a large and bulky proof medal into a oversized flip. In other words, perhaps a clear picture in the flip would have settled all this. I&#039;m not trying to be harsh, i just think NGC&#039;s response is warranted if you cant prove otherwise.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Joe, I&#039;m 100% sure those marks were not caused by the container.&nbsp; Furthermore, the OP seems to know a lot more than your average <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> grocery store fruit and veggie stocker!&nbsp; Therefore, <i>when he says the marks were not on the coin, they were not. </i></p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore (<span style="color: #0080ff">This is the important part of my <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> long-winded <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> post for which I&#039;ll apologise to the &quot;Ex-Perts&quot; here)</span>, the things we see on our coins usually occur in stages or degrees.&nbsp; Take a look at the OP&#039;s coin again.&nbsp; The marks on that coin are too severe to be called &quot;hairlines.&quot; When they get this noticeable and affect the surface in this way, most would call them minor scuffs.&nbsp; That raises the marks into the realm of PMD.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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