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Message:: [QUOTE="Mkman123, post: 3089577, member: 67575"][USER=69760]@iPen[/USER] definitely not the graders fault. Ive seen on coinweek and on the NGC site how the graders grade. They hold the edges and everything and don't touch the fields. So the question now is those marks....how did they get there. 1. They were already there. People are right after I read this whole thread, your photos aren't conclusive enough to show that they weren't already there. I see a lot of unboxing videos, etc on youtube and people say, this coin should get MS66 and then they get it back as AU details or whatnot.  People tend to overlook and perhaps maybe you overlooked those issues or didn't notice it before?? who knows 2. shipping damage or something. Yes you packaged it well. Was it alone or had other coins with it? Maybe it fell out of the flip or rattled around? Have you seen how the post office handles packages sometimes? They will throw it around seriously lol. 3. Some carelessness in the receiving department? Perhaps when the coin got to NGC and they opened it, the coin fell out of the box or something? Instead of carefully opening and taking the contents out slowly, it got dumped? who knows. If there are other coins with this order perhaps other coins were put next to it and it got rubbed or whatnot. Even a security camera couldn't definitively tell you that at a certain point it got that specific damage, rub mark, etc.[/QUOTE]