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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;torontokuba, post: 1896747, member: 56793&quot;]I dare you, no, I double dare you to find a Chinese or European/Russian TPG that will offer the experience that, according to you, PCGS and NGC lack. Many of the foreign TPG&#039;s assign real grades to DETAILS coins. The people that decided not to step in the potential cow pie you submitted to them, did so, because they are the best this world has to offer.</p><p><br /></p><p>Speaking from experience, I can tell you that the foreign market is filled with old dogs that are unable to learn new tricks. Their regional coin knowledge might be better than some PCGS and NGC expert&#039;s, but, their coin surface and fake detection knowledge and experience is nil. Many of them will slab fakes, cleaned coins, overgrade by a landslide and still find a clientele in doing so. The inventory they are surrounded by (geographically and historically) is fake, cleaned and overgraded. They have no choice, but to continue in their ways, if they wish to stay in business. If you buy a raw coin from them, they will shine it up quickly, prior to sending it to you, leaving you wondering why the coin is so much shinier than the original photos.</p><p><br /></p><p>USA has PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG</p><p><br /></p><p>Canada has ICCS and CCCS (nothing to be embarrassed about)</p><p><br /></p><p>Eastern Europe and Asia have PCG... <a href="http://www.pcggrading.in/index.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcggrading.in/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcggrading.in/index.php</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Please check out this CT topic... <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/threads/poland-graded-1896-morgan-dollar.111874/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/threads/poland-graded-1896-morgan-dollar.111874/">http://www.cointalk.com/threads/poland-graded-1896-morgan-dollar.111874/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>These are the prime reasons why I do not waste my time or anyone else&#039;s with Chinese coins. It is also advisable to avoid other known fakes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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