Not sure what the Second Democracy is all about and I'm BBQ-ing a salmon so I'll look it up in a sec, unless somebody else feeds it to me!! => I do have an earlier version (not quite as sweet as Carthago's ... but pretty dang sweet!!) Sicily, Syracuse. Hieron I AR Tetradrachm (240 Onkia) 478-466 BC (David Sear estimated 480-475 BC) Struck circa 478-475 BC Diameter: 24 mm Weight: 16.90 grams Obverse: Charioteer driving quadriga right; above, Nike flying right, crowning horses Reverse: Diademed head of Arethusa right; four dolphins around Reference: Boehringer series IXa, 190 (V86/R130); SNG ANS –; Randazzo 356 (same dies) Other: 2h, Near VF, toned, test cut on reverse Oh, and the sweetest part is ... one of my favs OMG, sorry Z-Bro => I love your new OP-addition (you rock ... big-time!!)