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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2127269, member: 24544"]Just picked this up on ebay, my third sestertii, and second of Gordian III. Looks like RIC 258a, which in my attempt to attribute I ran across another ric 258a owned by a forum member!</p><p><br /></p><p>Obverse legend is IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG - an early coin from 238-239. I see a lot more of the IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, fewer of this obverse legend. Reverse is VICTORIA AVG, victory left holding wreath and palm.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]404393[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]404394[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>So, I have a couple questions about ancient coins in general, and this coin specifically.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, I could not attribute this coin using ERIC II, the reverse type images were mislabeled, is this common for ERIC II or was this a rare occurance?</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, I assume this coin has been smoothed, I can see tooling marks on both sides, especially prevalent behind the bust. Has it been re-engraved at all in your opinion? I paid $35, which I was comfortable with, what are your thoughts on that price?</p><p><br /></p><p>On roman bronze in general, what are the tell tale signs of tooling, or generally altered surfaces, and how does that affect value? Am I correct in seeing more roughness between the letters in the legend and less roughness in the fields as a sign of smoothing, even if you can't see tooling marks?</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, in general, I understand they have all been cleaned at some point, and quite a few have had surface smoothing. But what else can be done to these, filling applied, what about fake patinia? How can you tell?</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for indulging a newb.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2127269, member: 24544"]Just picked this up on ebay, my third sestertii, and second of Gordian III. Looks like RIC 258a, which in my attempt to attribute I ran across another ric 258a owned by a forum member! Obverse legend is IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG - an early coin from 238-239. I see a lot more of the IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, fewer of this obverse legend. Reverse is VICTORIA AVG, victory left holding wreath and palm. [ATTACH=full]404393[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]404394[/ATTACH] So, I have a couple questions about ancient coins in general, and this coin specifically. First, I could not attribute this coin using ERIC II, the reverse type images were mislabeled, is this common for ERIC II or was this a rare occurance? Second, I assume this coin has been smoothed, I can see tooling marks on both sides, especially prevalent behind the bust. Has it been re-engraved at all in your opinion? I paid $35, which I was comfortable with, what are your thoughts on that price? On roman bronze in general, what are the tell tale signs of tooling, or generally altered surfaces, and how does that affect value? Am I correct in seeing more roughness between the letters in the legend and less roughness in the fields as a sign of smoothing, even if you can't see tooling marks? Again, in general, I understand they have all been cleaned at some point, and quite a few have had surface smoothing. But what else can be done to these, filling applied, what about fake patinia? How can you tell? Thanks for indulging a newb.[/QUOTE]
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