NEWP | Gold Escudos

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  1. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone,

    As I get ready for surgery tomorrow I am sharing these new gold coins that just came in from a close friend.

    They are really cool and my first gold coins older than the 20th Century. Did not pay a ton for them. Just thought I would share. Maybe in the near future I will get more into world gold as it is much more affordable (and interesting IMO) than the US gold.

    Feel free to post your Spanish gold below!

    1792 1 Escudo, Madrid mint, MF, Carolus IIII.
    Pretty worn down and has a light cleaning; but still has luster left in devices. About the size of a Capped Bust dime.
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    1788 1/2 Escudo, Madrid mint, M, Carolus III. Type 2 shield
    Very worn with old mount and damage. Payed a few dollars over melt for this one. Same size as a US half dime.
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    1783 1/2 Escudo, Madrid mint, JD, Carolus III.
    Worn with somewhat better details especially on the reverse. Has some damage on the top right. I like the strong denticles on this one.
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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Nice, I almost bought one once but the bidding got higher than I could afford. I want one and hope to buy one some day!
     
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  4. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Supporter! Supporter

    Very nice, @YoloBagels. Here's hoping you have a quick recovery on your part tomorrow.
     
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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Casual Collector / error expert "in Training "

    I also wish you a safe and speedy recovery ! Take Care , be safe . :)
     
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  6. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Wishing you a very quick recovery so you can leave the hospital soon (hospitals stays are so very boring).

    ½ Escudo coins were first minted in 1742 in Madrid as well as in Sevilla, under Philipp V. "Marco Castellano" was the standard weight for gold and silver, equivalent to 230 grams. A mint or casa de moneda would be supplied with x number of marcos. The half escudo, from 1742 to 1786 was minted with 21 carat gold and weighed 1.762 g. Weights were always very strictly controlled and mints were only permitted a tolerance equivalent to 0.899 g of silver and 0.29 g of gold per marco.

    1.731 g, 14 mm
    Madrid, 1744, mint master Juan Joseph Caballero (emr) and Antonio de Cardeña
    Friedberg 239-240; KM 361; Cayon-9481, C&C 12648

    Ob.: PHILIPPUS·V·D·G· 1744 head to right
    Rev.: Crowned arms of Castile and Leon HISPANIA RUM REX
    J A Mint mark: Crowned M (Madrid Mint)

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  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    Cool coins. Get well soon.
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Old Spanish gold is always fun, regardless of condition. All that history and... gold. What's not to like? :)

    My escudo is also a 1792, as it turns out.

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    I sold my half-escudo.

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  9. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Old gold is fun. I pick up the occasional piece when the price is right. No Spanish gold though.

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    Louis XV gold Louis d'Or 1726-P XF40 NGC, Dijon mint, KM489.16, Fr-461, Jones-2305. Includes detailed collector and Auction tags.
    From the Peter Jones M.D. Collection

    Obverse: Draped bust left
    Reverse: Crown above arms of France and Navarre

    Ruler: Louis XV

    Composition: Gold
    Fineness: 0.9170
    Weight: 8.1580g
    AGW: 0.2405oz

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    Composition: Gold
    Fineness: 0.9860
    Weight: 3.5000g

    Subject: 300th Anniversary of the Reformation
    Note: Prev. KM#302; KM#M1.

    Hamburg. Free City gold "300th Anniversary of the Reformation" Ducat. A splendid, flashy type, displaying some scattered signs of handling as one might expect for this talisman celebrating the Protestant Reformation.

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    Obverse: Head right
    Obverse Legend: WILHELM DEUTSCHER KAISER KONIG V. PREUSSEN
    Reverse: Crowned imperial eagle
    Reverse Legend: DEUTSCHES REICH
    Edge Description: Gott Mit Uns

    Ruler: Wilhelm I

    Composition: Gold
    Fineness: 0.9000
    Weight: 7.9650g
    AGW: 0.2305oz
     
  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Beautiful coins, congrats.
     
  11. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Thank yall for the warm wishes, after sleeping for a few hours I feel a lot better.


    The surgery was in office and I was awake for the whole thing, was quick and no problems. I am home now just light headed.

    It's funny how we both have the same date, any idea what the Calico-491 on the slab means?
     
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  12. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Great to hear you are home and well. The light headedness will pass soon, just take it slow.

    Jumping in into your post to lordmarcovan, Calico is a Spanish coin catalogue, it refers to "Numismatica Española" by Calico - a standard reference for Spanish numismatics, and the coin has the reference number 491.

    From another website:
    Aureo & Calico, after the sold out of their catalogue, has decided to give it for free on PDF. You can download it here.

    It's going to be the reference catalogue for Spanish collectors at least, the next 10 years.

    https://www.aureo.com/es/comprarcatalogo (click on "DESCARGAR")
     
  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    Nice examples.

    May you have a speedy recovery from the surgery.

    Here's an 8 escudos cob, Lima, 1750R, acquired from Pat Johnson back in the 1980s.

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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Thank you, @cmezner, for covering the question about the Calico reference better than I would have.
     
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  15. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    That's very kind of you, very gentlemanish :) I do appreciate very much your so nice reply to my "faux pas", and I am sure you would have explained it much better.
     
  16. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Wish You a speedy recovery:) Here are a few of my Spanish coins.... 00c4bd7f165bfe57b17de27faa3fd82f (1).jpg 2-escudos-1813-madrid-ig-5524544-XL.jpg 06b5c0b704f413444042fcfd56f1a474.jpg 9cdcc677e13128fbd38ed16c28aaea8e.jpg 25c499d114c2a119c96b4c26333f9659.jpg 33ca85a2c2c531e25018d92b2bc9d18a.jpg 2eb0e01779485d1c01f48ba93296d867.jpg f333a48399e757faf5c9fe99a1ada4a3.jpg suintila-621-631-barbi-antequera-triente-2321248-XL.jpg IMG_0074.JPG
     
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  17. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

  19. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Impressive collection @panzerman - thanks for sharing :)
     
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  20. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I have around 60 AV coins from Spain/ Colonials. My collections spans all 27 centuries/ I am almost at the "Big One Thousand" mark. I have AR Denari from Imperial Rome too.
    My fav. coin in my collection= IMG_0690.JPG IMG_0693.JPG
     
  21. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Wow that's just amazing, beautiful reverse and strike. Do you have any more aureii?
     
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