NEWP - AE22 of Arados

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    AE22, 6.88g, 12h
    Obv.: Turreted head of Tyche r., palm branch over shoulder.
    Rev.: [AP], Poseidon seated l. on prow with figurehead of Athena Promachos, holding wreath and trident; Aradian date 130/29 BC in exergue.
    Reference: HGC 10, 78; Duryat 2005, nos. 2237-2438

    arados.jpg

    I'm aware that the deposits on the reverse could be BD, but I bought it anyway. It's one of the best examples of the type I've seen and if it is suffering from BD, it needs to be conserved. This coin should not be lost for lack of conservation. Will keep y'all posted when it arrives.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice portrait JA. Hopefully it's not BD, but if it is, you can cure it before any more damage is done.
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    It is a pretty coin, but even this nice and if it was $10 I would have skimmed past it due to the possible BD. I have no patience to try and conserve anymore. Most of the time it fails. Hence why I wont buy Potins in my tetradrachm phase.
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I've managed to cure a few coins, so I'm not worried about it. But I also suspect the image is lightened quite a bit, giving the deposits that fluorescent color that looks like BD. I think the coin is actually much darker, and I'm hoping the green spots are just mineral deposits.
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    More than once I've bought coins I thought might have BD for it to turn out to be just mineral deposits. Keeping my fingers crossed and my thumbs tucked as they say in Germany.
     
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  7. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Very nice piece JA, good luck with the BD.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Arados is modern-day Arwad, a tiny island off the coast of Syria that played a important role in ancient history. Read about it here.

    aradosmap.jpg arados2.jpg
     
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  9. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes, tiny, but important. And it presents a coin collector with a great deal of variety and interest. There's the Persian Period (5th to 4th centuries BC), the Hellenistic Coinage (late 4th to 1st centuries BC), the Seleucid coinage minted in the city (which was renamed Antiochia in Pieria), various autonomous issues, and then all the Roman Provincial coins. There's a nice overview of the types at Wildwinds.
     
  11. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Did someone say Arados...
    Beautiful coin Big John, hoping that's just some green deposits.
    I have the same image of Tyche on a silver coin..

    Greek..
    Phoenicia, Arados
    AR Tetradrachm
    Obv.Turreted, veiled and draped bust of Tyche right.
    Rev.Nike standing left, holding aplustre and plam.
    Dated CY 160 (100/99 BC.)
    29mm x 14.97g.

    This a new photo...

    retake #3 005_opt.jpg
    retake #3 006_opt.jpg
     
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  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that was my first thought as well, it has kind of a "shiny" look to it...makes me think it isn't BD.
    it's a very nice lookin' coin JA, it's a cool reverse and the tyche looks great.
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Hey folks, this coin arrived today, and the green spots are, in fact, BD. But I bought it knowing full well that I might have to conserve it. I've removed most of the BD as you can see from the pic, but the last little bit is stubborn. I find that a long soak in distilled water tends to loosen it up, and that's where the coin is now. This is not much of a problem as far as BD goes, and this coin is far too nice (and rare) to simply discard without some attempt at conservation.

    arados500.jpg

    Once the deposits are completely gone, it'll soak for another month, then I bake it completely dry. If a year goes by without a recurrence of the BD, I'll add a drop of copper darkener to the exposed bits of bronze.
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Too bad, that sucks ...

    I agree with Mat => I don't go near bronze disease (or any disease!!)

    Oh, but the coin sure is sweet, so I'm really hoping that your medical-skills cure that funk!! (I'm a big fan, JA => you've got this!!)
     
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  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm not the least bit disappointed, actually. I got the coin at a substantial discount, probably because every collector that saw it said, "BD! Run!" I've managed to save a few nice coins that were much worse off than this one.
     
  17. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

     
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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    JA, do you use verdi-care?

    ... ummm oh, I meant on "your coins"

    :nurse:

     
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  19. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes, I do, but you've got to clean every trace of the BD off first, then dry them.
     
  20. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Phoenicia, Arados.jpg
    Phoenicia, Arados
    21mm
    7.30g
    Tyche/Poseidon
    No BD or VD
     
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  21. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here 's a tiny Greek coin with clear Phoenician lettering on reverse. The top of the reverse shows also the Phoenician letter " Alef" or Alpha in Greek. Th obverse shows a poor image of Zeus ( I believe ) . Charles Phoe ZR.jpg Phoe ZO.jpg
     
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