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<p>[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1624696, member: 37839"]Standard excuses. A newbie (you) who thinks he knows what he's talking about. It was slabbed--so where is the slab? It came from a roll? Actions speak louder than words--you think I am wrong (which I am not), submit it, or back off!! No way to prove what the coin is unless you have the wherewithal to submit. If you are not a member, get your "dealer" who sold you the coin that was slabbed but out of a roll, and then unslabbed (sounds like a pretty convoluted story right there) to submit for you. Otherwise, absent of a TPG, I stick with AU details. Don't like my evaluation? You can disagree, but I won't argue any more, as I am sure the coin was cleaned. You asked for opinions on grade, and don't like some of what people said. On this message board, you have to take the good with the bad--some might agree with you, and others don't. I stand on my years as a Morgan collector with considerable expertise--the coin has luster breaks, and shows wear in the high spots, at least based on your photography. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Oh yes, one more thing--if you think that the coin is a MS 65, why did a knowledgeable coin dealer sell you that and another coin for $75??? He could easily have gotten $150 for the MS 65 coin you allege. Sounds fishy to me--and rather typical of people who come here with the "what is the grade" thread, and then spend the entire thread defending against criticism of their coin--not criticizing YOU, but your coin is no gem Morgan. Sorry and end of story for me--too much arguing with opinions rather than facts. As regards your little video, a dipped or polished coin can also show "shine" into a camera--that is no test. Does it have luster consistently to the naked eye, and no breaks? Doesn't look it from your pictures--sorry. There is also wear on the eagle's breast and on the obverse as well--very little wear but enough to take the coin out of the MS realm. So, I stand by AU details--cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I consider your response to me rude, and condescending. I never attacked you--you are being nasty and flippant to me for disagreeing with my valuations on your coin. Please do not resort to "personal attacks," as that is contrary to forum rules. I never attacked you, but debated the condition of your coin. Extend to me the same courtesy, or I consider your response an attack if you can't be polite.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1624696, member: 37839"]Standard excuses. A newbie (you) who thinks he knows what he's talking about. It was slabbed--so where is the slab? It came from a roll? Actions speak louder than words--you think I am wrong (which I am not), submit it, or back off!! No way to prove what the coin is unless you have the wherewithal to submit. If you are not a member, get your "dealer" who sold you the coin that was slabbed but out of a roll, and then unslabbed (sounds like a pretty convoluted story right there) to submit for you. Otherwise, absent of a TPG, I stick with AU details. Don't like my evaluation? You can disagree, but I won't argue any more, as I am sure the coin was cleaned. You asked for opinions on grade, and don't like some of what people said. On this message board, you have to take the good with the bad--some might agree with you, and others don't. I stand on my years as a Morgan collector with considerable expertise--the coin has luster breaks, and shows wear in the high spots, at least based on your photography. :) :) Oh yes, one more thing--if you think that the coin is a MS 65, why did a knowledgeable coin dealer sell you that and another coin for $75??? He could easily have gotten $150 for the MS 65 coin you allege. Sounds fishy to me--and rather typical of people who come here with the "what is the grade" thread, and then spend the entire thread defending against criticism of their coin--not criticizing YOU, but your coin is no gem Morgan. Sorry and end of story for me--too much arguing with opinions rather than facts. As regards your little video, a dipped or polished coin can also show "shine" into a camera--that is no test. Does it have luster consistently to the naked eye, and no breaks? Doesn't look it from your pictures--sorry. There is also wear on the eagle's breast and on the obverse as well--very little wear but enough to take the coin out of the MS realm. So, I stand by AU details--cleaned. Also, I consider your response to me rude, and condescending. I never attacked you--you are being nasty and flippant to me for disagreeing with my valuations on your coin. Please do not resort to "personal attacks," as that is contrary to forum rules. I never attacked you, but debated the condition of your coin. Extend to me the same courtesy, or I consider your response an attack if you can't be polite.[/QUOTE]
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