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<p>[QUOTE="gboulton, post: 1496023, member: 27043"]For whatever strange reason that compels folks like us, a couple of months ago, I decided to start another set.</p><p><br /></p><p>Business strike Franklins, MS-64 or above, with NGC or PCGS FBL designation.</p><p><br /></p><p>After watching several weeks of auctions and sales, it seems that some general statements can be made about coins found in both holders.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS examples seem to be more in line with my eye for grading. I find the 64s to be considerably cleaner and less chattery than their NGC counterparts. NGC MS64s seem to regularly have noticeable gouges and dings on almost any part of the obverse, frequently disracting from the overall eye appeal of the coin imo.</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC examples, on the other hand, are consistently better-struck. To begin with, NGC demands 2 full sets of lines for the FBL designation, where PCGS demands only one...but even beyond that, NGC seems to be considerably stricter in their interpretation of what a 'full set of lines" is. Even allowing for PCGS's lower standard, they seem to be much more lenient on the one set of bell lines they DO consider.</p><p><br /></p><p>Having said all of that, in MS64 a vast majority of this set simply isn't pricey enough to get TOO worked up about it. So, the intent is to go after coins that <b>I like</b> for one reason or another, that, for my money, stand out from others in their grade and price range. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>So...I began tonight with a 57 and 59D from Teletrade. (Seller pictures below)</p><p><br /></p><p>The 57 is in a PCGS MS64FBL holder. I really quite enjoy the blue speckling on the reverse, and the obverse is as clean as I'm likely to find in a 64. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]191064.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]191065.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The 59D is in an NGC MS64 FBL holder. I grabbed this one primarily because I was able to get it at a decent price, and it's got one of the nicer reverses I've seen for the grade, with a typical NGC quality strong strike for the FBL designation. The obverse is cleaner than most of their 64's as well, imo. Overall, simply a nice example for the grade, especially for the price.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]191066.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]191067.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>==============</p><p><br /></p><p>With everyone's kind tolerance, I'll update this thread as I acquire further examples. Who knows how long it will take, or how successful I'll be...but I at least think it'll be fun sharing the process, anyway. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I welcome comments and insights, of course. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="gboulton, post: 1496023, member: 27043"]For whatever strange reason that compels folks like us, a couple of months ago, I decided to start another set. Business strike Franklins, MS-64 or above, with NGC or PCGS FBL designation. After watching several weeks of auctions and sales, it seems that some general statements can be made about coins found in both holders. PCGS examples seem to be more in line with my eye for grading. I find the 64s to be considerably cleaner and less chattery than their NGC counterparts. NGC MS64s seem to regularly have noticeable gouges and dings on almost any part of the obverse, frequently disracting from the overall eye appeal of the coin imo. NGC examples, on the other hand, are consistently better-struck. To begin with, NGC demands 2 full sets of lines for the FBL designation, where PCGS demands only one...but even beyond that, NGC seems to be considerably stricter in their interpretation of what a 'full set of lines" is. Even allowing for PCGS's lower standard, they seem to be much more lenient on the one set of bell lines they DO consider. Having said all of that, in MS64 a vast majority of this set simply isn't pricey enough to get TOO worked up about it. So, the intent is to go after coins that [B]I like[/B] for one reason or another, that, for my money, stand out from others in their grade and price range. :) So...I began tonight with a 57 and 59D from Teletrade. (Seller pictures below) The 57 is in a PCGS MS64FBL holder. I really quite enjoy the blue speckling on the reverse, and the obverse is as clean as I'm likely to find in a 64. [ATTACH]191064.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]191065.vB[/ATTACH] The 59D is in an NGC MS64 FBL holder. I grabbed this one primarily because I was able to get it at a decent price, and it's got one of the nicer reverses I've seen for the grade, with a typical NGC quality strong strike for the FBL designation. The obverse is cleaner than most of their 64's as well, imo. Overall, simply a nice example for the grade, especially for the price. [ATTACH]191066.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]191067.vB[/ATTACH] ============== With everyone's kind tolerance, I'll update this thread as I acquire further examples. Who knows how long it will take, or how successful I'll be...but I at least think it'll be fun sharing the process, anyway. :) I welcome comments and insights, of course. :)[/QUOTE]
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