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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 278084, member: 66&quot;]Please clarify what you mean by &quot;under the lettering&quot;.&nbsp; Do you mean &quot;through the lettering such as inside the O in GOD, or do you truly mean under the lettering as in you look down inside the depression of the impressed letter itself and you can still see traces of the crushed grooves down in those depressions?&nbsp; And I can&#039;t see how those groves could exactly match up with the reeds on a SBA dollar.&nbsp; As mentioned their spacing is uneven and not even parallel.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think anyone here has accused you of tampering with the coin, we just see it as most likely the result of damage to the coin and not the result of a mint process (damage that occurs inside the mint is still just damage.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason I belive it is damage is because I can&#039;t see how it could occur during the minting process.&nbsp; If the marks were from a SBA dollar then it would have to have been a struck coin getting into the president dollar press and being struck again.&nbsp; But one, a struck coin will not fit back down into the collar&nbsp; (This is one point where I think GDJMSP is wrong. The business strike coins are struck in a one piece plain collar like cents, nickels and Sac dollars.&nbsp; You would have no problems ejecting the coin from a plain collar so there is no reason for it to be segmented.&nbsp; Why add the unneeded complexity on a high speed coining operation?&nbsp; The Proof presidents use segmented collars because they form the edge letters during the striking and you couldn&#039;t eject the coin without destroying the edge inscriptions unless you use a segmented collar.)&nbsp; Since neither the Sac or the president uses a reeded collar there would be no reason to have one around that could create the grooves seen on your coin.&nbsp; The mint hasn&#039;t used a reeded collar that size since 1999.</p><p><br /></p><p>Two, since the coin was struck with a plain edge the grooves would have to have been created before, during or after the lettering of the edge.&nbsp; If they were created before the lettering the flat areas of the lettering dies would have crushed the grooves and I see no evidence of that. but if it did happen and somehow they were not crushed by the die flats then we would see the crushed grooves down inside the depressions of the letters themselves.&nbsp; In order to have been created during the lettering it would have to be the result of defective edge dies and Ican&#039;t see anyway that an edge die with obvious raised bars across it would get past even the most cursery inspection and put into production.&nbsp; I&#039;m not even sure how you could create one.&nbsp; This leaves the last and most likely case, some how they were created after the lettering possibly in a piece of machinery somewhere.&nbsp; But in that case they are post mint damage no matter where the damage occured.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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