New variety of 1949 S with spiked N

Well.. the only way any area that is raised on a coins surface is definitely caused by a void on the die. The metal from the blank planchet flows into that void and appears raised. It's very simple.

Anything else has to be a foreign substance or material.

We're good though. No consternation.
Peace

 

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A member asked for pictures of each Cent.
Full image of the obverse.
Lets see them.

 

Just a thought! Could a piece of the planchet have broke away and got stuck in the die ?

 

I suspected as much paddyman98. If it's "well known knowledge" then you would have no problem providing a source that "there will be a die chip, die crack or cud" as well as where it should occur as you stated earlier.

Thought I would include a closeup of both Ns so you can inspect the "damage"

 

We asked for the pictures of both Cents. Full obverse! Not close-up pics.

 

What possible purpose could it serve to provide full pics if what you see is just damage?

 

Huge purpose.. just provide the pictures.

 

Die Chips
https://www.error-ref.com/die-chips/

Die Breaks
https://www.error-ref.com/die-breaks/

 

You just can't put it into words paddyman98?

 

Nope. It's all explained there. I shared the information just like I've been doing for over 10 years on CoinTalk. Never had a problem with anyone else when I've done so.
Congratulations.. you're the first

 

Again, Why do you want full pics if all you see is damage?

Could you point out the damage again. I don't see it.

 

Ok, I will jump in also,If you look at the 1 st and 2nd photo where the incomplete letter (N) is shown you can see marks going to the edge of the coin. In fact, if you look at the rim of the cent in that direction, the "damage" as it was called , I believe is from one action. What did it, removing part of the letter and bruise the rim, a screwdriver, chisel , etc. ? I don't know.
If it was on the die, it would have been hard deposits in the inward spacing and likely found in several thousands of cents. You did nice photography , but it concerns that you do not want to show the whole face of it. If it is currently in any lists, multiple copies will verify it is or is not. You have it in hand, we do not. Jim

 

General comment: when members post specimens for review, I like standard photos of the obverse and reverse. I think that a number of variety hunters feel this way, especially when another member is asking for help regarding attribution. For example, one marker may be obliterated while another is present. You probably wouldn’t get that from a close-up of a date or a device. Also, before spotting markers, placement of a mint mark might first need confirmation.

I agree with Ed’s request for the full images, juxtaposed for comparison. Especially with our experienced members, they will see things others do not readily observe. It’s part of their diagnostic method.

Regarding the two specimens here, at a minimum they share a very similar likeness. They may even share a common error attributable to the die. But what would fill the die in such a fashion to create this effect? A partially filled device? Attributable to impacted grease? Is the effect seen on the rim the result of a dropped die? Or is that effect just a red herring? A full image might help bear that out.

 

Please entertain us with full images i’m trying to learn something.

 

Sorry desertgem but I don't see any "marks going to the edge of the coin". In fact the absence of any trace of damage to either of the Ns, as well as two nearly identical examples from the same mint in the same year point to the likelihood of a mint error IMO, and a rare one at that. I fail to see how posting full pics will serve any useful purpose except to feed the confirmation bias of those who cannot explain what they see without resorting to damage as an explanation. I think it's time to press pause. Some of you folks are really nice. Thanks

 

Aloha

 

You crack me up

 

Fine then i’ll just learn somewhere else

 

Well bye, but you ask why I ( we) asked to see the whole coins together is
1. There really are two separate coins that are very close in odd features. Reason ? to verify possible mint actions, such as wear/alter from cent 1 to cent 2 as you say they haven't appeared before and thus quite scarce
--2. Since "crud" stuck in the die to make such an outcome is not as hard as metal and small parts may drop away and change another group of similar coins with different structural form.
Your reasons belong to you of course, so wish you well. Jim

 

Help me understand/learn. I always thought a filled die could keep lettering from being fully struck. With that said, I really trust Ed's opinion that this is just damage.

 

Looking at this again, I can see top of the left side of the N looks like it was scraped and the bottom of the right side of the N is brighter than the rest of the corn. It also appears that there is slight damage on the rim in that area.