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Message:: [QUOTE="johnmilton, post: 8491130, member: 101855"]My experience with early copper and the grading services is colored by my experience with them 20+ years ago. The only coins that I had which graded were my Chain and Wreath Cents and a couple of half cents. All of the rest got body bags, some, perhaps deserved, others based upon the ignorance of the graders. I sold a couple of those pieces only see them crop in the GRADED after they had "cheated" me out of the money I paid them. Here are some pieces that got body bags. Most EAC people. who post on the web, did not understand this body bag. For a VF graded coin, this is about as good as it gets. [ATTACH=full]1502864[/ATTACH] Here's another [ATTACH=full]1502865[/ATTACH] This 1802 half cent was the Garrett Collection and is close to the condition census for the variety. I sold it when I was a dealer for a good price. [ATTACH=full]1502866[/ATTACH] This 1797, S-139 Large Cent is a condition census piece. It was body bagged. It consigned it an EAC convention auction where it appeared on the cover. It sold for a strong price. Later I saw it in a PCGS holder. It has some smooth, red, inactive corrosion on the reverse. [ATTACH=full]1502867[/ATTACH] And here's the coin I REALLY regret selling. They body bagged this for AT. Yea, right. That grader needs to stick to Morgan Dollars. I sold this when I was letting the registry lead me by the nose to a point. Never again! [ATTACH=full]1502868[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]