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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4106935, member: 85693"]Welcome to CT and ancients in general. </p><p><br /></p><p>Buying unidentified lots is one of my favorite things to do - I just posted one I bought this month for $4.99: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/odd-lot-from-ebay-ancients-papal-states-mystery-provincial.354876/#post-4103850" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/odd-lot-from-ebay-ancients-papal-states-mystery-provincial.354876/#post-4103850">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/odd-lot-from-ebay-ancients-papal-states-mystery-provincial.354876/#post-4103850</a></p><p><br /></p><p>That being said, I do not care for the typical "uncleaned lot" that are so commonly sold - LRB (late Roman bronze) worn slick then crusted over do not seem to clean up very well - I base this on many posts here on Coin Talk by folks who have tried these. Such results can discourage a new collector. I avoid such lots. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for specific coins:</p><p><br /></p><p>The lot noted above came with a Claudius II Gothicus with a double-strike (cost: $0.83) - it takes a bit of work to attribute these - in this case, there a several "Annona" reverse types. The obverse legend (with a C before the C in CLAVDIVS) and the delta in the reverse field is what determined the ID. </p><p><br /></p><p>When I first started out, this was a very intimidating, sometimes frustrating experience. But you'll get the hang of it - and I got a lot of help (and still do) from Coin Talk members, who are quite generous with their expertise and time:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1066751[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Claudius II Æ Antoninianus </b></p><p><b>(268-270 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Rome Mint </b></p><p>IMP C CLAVDIVS [AVG], radiate head right / A[NNON]A AVG, Annona standing left, foot on prow, holding corn ears and cornucopiae, Δ in right field. </p><p>RIC 18 radiate head </p><p><b>Note:</b> doublestruck</p><p>(4.01 grams / 22 x 18 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>As for Crusty Macedonians (sounds like the name of an ironic coffee shop), here is one I paid $3 for (not from a lot) - these too can be tricky to attribute, there being many reverse symbols, arrangement of the bow/club, etc.:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1066752[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Macedon Æ Half Unit </b></p><p><b>Alexander III </b></p><p><b>(c. 336-323 B.C.)</b></p><p><b>Uncertain Macedon Mint</b></p><p>Head of Herakles right, with lionskin head-dress /[AΛ]EΞ[AN]ΔΡOY, between quiver above and club below; Δ above, star below.</p><p>Price 277. </p><p>(6.58 grams / 17 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>Is it worth $3? It is to me - the obverse is nice and it's 2000 years old Greek art and I like colorful patina and I still get all excited about paying $3 for stuff like this. But that's just me - others would say it's nasty. Maybe I'll mature into a more discerning collector...but probably not. I'm about as mature as I'm going to get, I'm afraid. And I'm a cheapskate. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for cleaning, both of the above coins could probably be improved by an expert. I am no expert, so I don't try anything beyond removing loose surface dirt. Beyond that, I am certain I'd just ruin these.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4106935, member: 85693"]Welcome to CT and ancients in general. Buying unidentified lots is one of my favorite things to do - I just posted one I bought this month for $4.99: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/odd-lot-from-ebay-ancients-papal-states-mystery-provincial.354876/#post-4103850[/URL] That being said, I do not care for the typical "uncleaned lot" that are so commonly sold - LRB (late Roman bronze) worn slick then crusted over do not seem to clean up very well - I base this on many posts here on Coin Talk by folks who have tried these. Such results can discourage a new collector. I avoid such lots. As for specific coins: The lot noted above came with a Claudius II Gothicus with a double-strike (cost: $0.83) - it takes a bit of work to attribute these - in this case, there a several "Annona" reverse types. The obverse legend (with a C before the C in CLAVDIVS) and the delta in the reverse field is what determined the ID. When I first started out, this was a very intimidating, sometimes frustrating experience. But you'll get the hang of it - and I got a lot of help (and still do) from Coin Talk members, who are quite generous with their expertise and time: [ATTACH=full]1066751[/ATTACH] [B]Claudius II Æ Antoninianus (268-270 A.D.) Rome Mint [/B] IMP C CLAVDIVS [AVG], radiate head right / A[NNON]A AVG, Annona standing left, foot on prow, holding corn ears and cornucopiae, Δ in right field. RIC 18 radiate head [B]Note:[/B] doublestruck (4.01 grams / 22 x 18 mm) As for Crusty Macedonians (sounds like the name of an ironic coffee shop), here is one I paid $3 for (not from a lot) - these too can be tricky to attribute, there being many reverse symbols, arrangement of the bow/club, etc.: [ATTACH=full]1066752[/ATTACH] [B]Macedon Æ Half Unit Alexander III (c. 336-323 B.C.) Uncertain Macedon Mint[/B] Head of Herakles right, with lionskin head-dress /[AΛ]EΞ[AN]ΔΡOY, between quiver above and club below; Δ above, star below. Price 277. (6.58 grams / 17 mm) Is it worth $3? It is to me - the obverse is nice and it's 2000 years old Greek art and I like colorful patina and I still get all excited about paying $3 for stuff like this. But that's just me - others would say it's nasty. Maybe I'll mature into a more discerning collector...but probably not. I'm about as mature as I'm going to get, I'm afraid. And I'm a cheapskate. As for cleaning, both of the above coins could probably be improved by an expert. I am no expert, so I don't try anything beyond removing loose surface dirt. Beyond that, I am certain I'd just ruin these.[/QUOTE]
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