New Sicilian Gold Coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by arnoldoe, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    or about 2/3rds of one anyway:angelic:

    Tari265.jpg Tari
    0.85g 12mm

    I think its Roger II?

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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Yes, I think so. Here is my atrocious photo of mine:

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    These are neat for their combination of Arabic script with Christian imagery.
  4. Pellinore

    Pellinore Supporter! Supporter

    And mine. They are often poorly produced.

    4801 Tari 1130-54.jpg

    AV tari, Roger II of Sicily 1130-1154. Obv. Cross with IC-XC / NI-KA ('Jesus Wins'). Rev. Kufic text in two rings around a bull's eye with several dots. 12 mm. 1.38 gr.
  5. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist Supporter

    I do like these Taris - wish I had the funds to pursue more of them!

    Med-14-ISic-1140-Roger II-Tar-Palermo-202.jpg Norman Italy - Sicily
    Roger II, r. 1130-1154 (1140-1154)
    Palermo mint, AV Taris, 12.66 mm x 1.1 grams
    Obv.: Outer Cufic legend denoting date and mint, inner Cufic legend al-malik Rujar al-mu’tazz bi-llah, pellet in center of dotted circle
    Rev.: Outer cufic legend denoting date and mint, in center, cross potent on shaft with pellet between IC XC NI KA
    Ref.: NCKS 240, MEC 14.202, De Wit 3796
  6. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    Better than the sellers pic of mine
    bought as “sicily gold coin”
  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    AV Tari d'oro lf (40).jpg lf (41).jpg b04714f3bab2d04086df2acf85568198.jpg lf (46).jpg lf (47).jpg ea0ee0bb965f613c22109ad3609414c4.jpg ND
    William II ii66-89
    Messina Mint
    Norman Rulers of Sicily

    AV 3 Tari d'oro ND (unique) not in any pubication
    Messina Mint
    Conrad I of Hohenstaufen/ also Holy Roman Emperor 1250-54
    German Rulers of Sicily

    AV Tari d'oro ND Ruggero II 1105-54
    Messina Mint
    Norman Rulers of Sicily

    AV 2 Tari d'oro ND
    Friedrich II of Hohenstaufen/ also Holy Roman Emperor 1205-50
    German Rulers of Sicily
  8. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist Supporter

    I have dreams of one day putting together a guide on reading the Arabic dating on these coins by counting the minims which are visible on the edge (since most of them are clipped and lack the whole inscription). I don’t even know if it is possible, but I lack the time to try to find out.
  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    There are some handsome medieval Sicilian gold coins in this thread :jawdrop:! The only medieval Sicilian coin I have is the silver pierreale struck at the Messina Mint, under Frederick III, House of Barcelona, 1296-1337, pictured below. There is no trace of Arabic on this coin.
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    :hilarious: I bet you got it for a steal!
  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Forgot to add...

    That is a beauty Al! I am after the AV Pierreale of Constanza and Pedro III of Aragon:)
  12. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    supposedly these are around 68% gold, so i had to pay almost 2x melt price :angelic:
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