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<p>[QUOTE="Julius Germanicus, post: 4316584, member: 80783"]That must be because they were both inspired by the same, well known (in antiquity, that is) statue. I still wonder if the original statue carried an Eagle standard like on my coin or a Trophy like the beautifully detailed one on your Domitian and the one Mars Victor is holding on your Vitellius. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What an awesome Vitellius! That quality is in a league beyond my resources. Sniff! But there are actually some obverse die links between your and my Mars type.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you would have sold me your Concordia Vitellius last year, my search would have been over right there and then <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. I do like the brassy look of that one. Back then you probably got all three for less than what one would costs now.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Wow, that IS one spectacular bird! Is it a genuine roman piece and is it known where it was found?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Traces of it are there, if you look at the OP picture really, really, really hard. Here is a double die matching specimen (at least I think it is) where you can see it´s position.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097444[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I found a total of five published specimens of this unlisted type with Aquila ("RIC 141 var.") from three obverse and three reverse dies, while there seem to be another five genuine specimens with Trophy (RIC 141) plus at least twice as many fakes sold as genuine. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Sadly not. The Paduan which I think is the finest known specimen of it´s type (Lawrence 28, Klawans 4), sold for 4.500 USD including buyer´s fee in 2013 .</p><p>There are more than a hundred aftercasts and later copies from these dies around, which like all cast or struck fakes of the type show Mars with a trophy (instead of an eagle).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Julius Germanicus, post: 4316584, member: 80783"]That must be because they were both inspired by the same, well known (in antiquity, that is) statue. I still wonder if the original statue carried an Eagle standard like on my coin or a Trophy like the beautifully detailed one on your Domitian and the one Mars Victor is holding on your Vitellius. What an awesome Vitellius! That quality is in a league beyond my resources. Sniff! But there are actually some obverse die links between your and my Mars type. If you would have sold me your Concordia Vitellius last year, my search would have been over right there and then :-). I do like the brassy look of that one. Back then you probably got all three for less than what one would costs now. Wow, that IS one spectacular bird! Is it a genuine roman piece and is it known where it was found? Traces of it are there, if you look at the OP picture really, really, really hard. Here is a double die matching specimen (at least I think it is) where you can see it´s position. [ATTACH=full]1097444[/ATTACH] I found a total of five published specimens of this unlisted type with Aquila ("RIC 141 var.") from three obverse and three reverse dies, while there seem to be another five genuine specimens with Trophy (RIC 141) plus at least twice as many fakes sold as genuine. Sadly not. The Paduan which I think is the finest known specimen of it´s type (Lawrence 28, Klawans 4), sold for 4.500 USD including buyer´s fee in 2013 . There are more than a hundred aftercasts and later copies from these dies around, which like all cast or struck fakes of the type show Mars with a trophy (instead of an eagle).[/QUOTE]
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