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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ancientnoob, post: 2263013, member: 44140&quot;]This specimen is one of the most enigmatic I have ever come across and what I might consider one my new favorites and represents all that is interesting about ancient coins.</p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Ancient_india.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><i>Thanks to wikipedia for the simple map...</i></p><p><br /></p><p>This specimen although new and excavated</p><p><br /></p><p>by T.R Hardaker himself the dating and attribution of the coin is hotly debated. The punches are largely understudied and there has yet to be a definitive work cataloging the type. My internet searches and correspondence with fellow collectors and experts in India has yielded a variety of different views and attributions, none of them are definitive and some are quite unsupported.</p><p>These coins all appear to be from a single hoard and a few single finds further confusing and certainly adding to the possibilities of issuing authorities.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will share what I have gathered from all this information noise and try to present it to you all in a palatable manner.</p><p><br /></p><p>Dating I have heard this could be one of the first coins in all of the world...with the earliest date being about BC 650-600. Some give it a date of BC 600 - 500 and some as late as BC 300. Again everything is up in the air as of today. The extreme early date is appealing but lets look at some of the evidence. The prevailing attribution is that the coin is attributed to one of the very ancient states the Janapada of Matsya, and given a date of BC 600. To put it in perspective in the time of the Buddha ( BC 560-480(?)), the Janapada of Matsya was in severe decline and had almost been completely subjugated by the Janapada of Magadha. Matsya is also geographically quite distant from where these specimens are known to be found. With this understanding the date has to be earlier than the Karshapana of Magadha. The problem with this is that they are found far from the ancient borders of Matsya.</p><p><br /></p><p>All the coins are all of similar fabric suggesting a short emission with no progenitive types or smaller denominations. The coins are also not as crude as the Karshapana of the earlier periods. Having a few large well spaced counter marks on a planchet that was clipped to size.</p><p><br /></p><p>To illustrate this I will show you a picture of the Series I Karshapana of Magadha.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]449404[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Instead the coin shows a high level of skill in the minting process where all the coins are made to size and then struck. The coins are either square or round but with no evidence of clipping or otherwise shaping of the coin. This feature might suggest a later date of BC 300.</p><p><br /></p><p>Stylistically the coin is probably closest to the coins of Janapada of Panchala, of which I do not own an example, but this would support a date BC 600-500. As Panchala was a strong state at this time and there is some minor similarities with the punches. Yet under close examination the punches are far more complex than any of the other PMC in all the world.</p><p><br /></p><p>I made&nbsp; an overlay of the symbols on my specimen and then had them checked with an Indian expert and he confirms the overlay is perfect and very accurate, so I feel I can confidently show it here. [USER=57364]@THCoins[/USER] has done some scholarly type work with similar coins with different punches, I hope he decides to share that info with us here.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]449421[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin denomination is called a Vimsataika. A silver coin heavier than the Karshapana we have become so familiar with and is considered its predecessor.</p><p><br /></p><p>India, Uttar Pradesh</p><p>Unknown Janapada Varanasi-Jaunpur Region (Matsya(?))</p><p>AR Vimsatika (BC 650-300(?))</p><p>24 mm x 21 mm x 4.42 grams</p><p>Obverse: 2 Large Punches - (Red), 4 smaller punches (Blue and Green) and 2 additional Bankers marks(?) (Yellow)</p><p>Reverse: Blank as struck.</p><p>Reference: None. Uncatalogued.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]449423[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I would also like to take a second to thank, for providing scholarly work and a unique approach to understanding these coins. You guys Rock!!!! It is a real honor to be apart of this very small club.</p><p><br /></p><p>Raghunadha Raju</p><p><br /></p><p>Mitresh Singh</p><p><br /></p><p>THCoins</p><p><br /></p><p>Dr. Alex Fishman[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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