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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6292738, member: 110504"]I wound up with this last night, attributed to Baldwin III.</p><p> [ATTACH=full]1249412[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1249413[/ATTACH]</p><p>Frankish Levant. Principality of Antioch. Raymond Roupen, 'pretender' to Antioch, 1216-1219. AR denier.</p><p>Obv. Helmeted profile, in chain mail. +:R:V: P:I:N:V:S:</p><p>Rev. +AMTIOCIIIA (Blundered rendering of 'ANTIOCHIA,' as in 12th-century issues of Baldwin III.) Malloy, Antioch (/pp. 223-4): 95a.</p><p>This complemented one I'd already posted, this time with Malloy's principal obverse variant, as noted under 95a. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1249395[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1249396[/ATTACH] </p><p>For comparison, there's this one, of Bohemond IV's first reign (1201-1216), which Raymond Roupen so rudely interrupted. ...The legends and motifs represent a seamless continuation of the 12th-century issues of Bohemond III.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1249398[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1249399[/ATTACH] Malloy 78a, citing Metcalf Class J.</p><p>...Where the Crusades are concerned, the earlier 13th century is my favorite part of the whole, otherwise sordid enterprise. By this time, what was left of the Frankish polity had an established tradition of adaptation, notably on the levels of diplomacy and trade. Before too long, Friedrich II of the German empire would capitalize on some of the underlying cultural dynamics which made this even fleetingly possible. With maternal descent from Norman Sicily --not unlike the Bohemonds of Antioch, from the origin of the principality-- Friedrich 'liberated' Jerusalem for the only time since 1100 CE, by means of irect negotation, in Arabic.</p><p>...So of course I needed this.</p><p> [ATTACH=full]1249416[/ATTACH]</p><p>Frankish Levant. AR dirham, imitating issues of Al-Zahir Ghazi, Ayyubid at Aleppo, AH 614 /1217 CE.</p><p>Album (2nd ed., 1998) 836; Balog 629; Malloy p. 133, no. 1.</p><p>...I wish I had access to Metcalf for this, beyond a few xeroxes. But one great beauty of this issue is that, apart from stylistic variation, the only distinguishing feature of either the legends or the motifs is that the Frankish series continues the AH dates past Al-Zahir Ghzi's death. ..Evoking Norman Sicilian coins of the preceding century, with correspondingly accurate AH dates.</p><p>Kinda cool.</p><p>Post anything relating to unexpected levels of cultural interchange. ...Since, in the Ancient world, that's almost the default mode, medieval (whether CE or AD) would be only more fun.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6292738, member: 110504"]I wound up with this last night, attributed to Baldwin III. [ATTACH=full]1249412[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1249413[/ATTACH] Frankish Levant. Principality of Antioch. Raymond Roupen, 'pretender' to Antioch, 1216-1219. AR denier. Obv. Helmeted profile, in chain mail. +:R:V: P:I:N:V:S: Rev. +AMTIOCIIIA (Blundered rendering of 'ANTIOCHIA,' as in 12th-century issues of Baldwin III.) Malloy, Antioch (/pp. 223-4): 95a. This complemented one I'd already posted, this time with Malloy's principal obverse variant, as noted under 95a. [ATTACH=full]1249395[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1249396[/ATTACH] For comparison, there's this one, of Bohemond IV's first reign (1201-1216), which Raymond Roupen so rudely interrupted. ...The legends and motifs represent a seamless continuation of the 12th-century issues of Bohemond III. [ATTACH=full]1249398[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1249399[/ATTACH] Malloy 78a, citing Metcalf Class J. ...Where the Crusades are concerned, the earlier 13th century is my favorite part of the whole, otherwise sordid enterprise. By this time, what was left of the Frankish polity had an established tradition of adaptation, notably on the levels of diplomacy and trade. Before too long, Friedrich II of the German empire would capitalize on some of the underlying cultural dynamics which made this even fleetingly possible. With maternal descent from Norman Sicily --not unlike the Bohemonds of Antioch, from the origin of the principality-- Friedrich 'liberated' Jerusalem for the only time since 1100 CE, by means of irect negotation, in Arabic. ...So of course I needed this. [ATTACH=full]1249416[/ATTACH] Frankish Levant. AR dirham, imitating issues of Al-Zahir Ghazi, Ayyubid at Aleppo, AH 614 /1217 CE. Album (2nd ed., 1998) 836; Balog 629; Malloy p. 133, no. 1. ...I wish I had access to Metcalf for this, beyond a few xeroxes. But one great beauty of this issue is that, apart from stylistic variation, the only distinguishing feature of either the legends or the motifs is that the Frankish series continues the AH dates past Al-Zahir Ghzi's death. ..Evoking Norman Sicilian coins of the preceding century, with correspondingly accurate AH dates. Kinda cool. Post anything relating to unexpected levels of cultural interchange. ...Since, in the Ancient world, that's almost the default mode, medieval (whether CE or AD) would be only more fun.[/QUOTE]
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