New Post - 1793 Flowing Hair - worth slabbing/conserving?...

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by AtlantaMan, May 27, 2024.

  1. AtlantaMan

    AtlantaMan New Member

    After some discussion, responders suggested my original photos were not the greatest, so here is the best I can do (below), and I repeat the description with my original questions for the greater Coin Talk audience.

    I have a 1793 flowing hair, wreath reverse, vine & bars edge, large one cent. If I study the obverse under magnification for a couple of minutes, I can make out the remnants of a 1, 7 and 3, but the 9 seems to be totally obliterated. I clearly see the sprig, the face, the hair and "LIBERTY." The reverse is in pretty good shape given its age. I think the grading services probably would say its "environmentally damaged." Oh well. As far as I can tell by looking at various auctions and such, it's about an 8 on the Sheldon Scale. That's my amateurish opinion, that's it.
    1) What do you think the grade would be?
    2) I think this is worth "slabbing," but should I also get NCS to "conserve" it?
    V2 - 1793  Flowing Hair Cent-Obverse-Vine and Bars.jpg
    V2 - 1793 Flowing Hair Cent-Wreath Reverse-Vine and Bars.jpg
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  3. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I still vote "too far gone" . . .

    Might be okay for a type set hole filler, if determined genuine. That would be the only reason for having it evaluated by a TPG. Conservation won't add any value in my opinion.

  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Waaaaaaaaaay past conservation, you can hope for conformation though. Good luck
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I still say you would be wasting your money.
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  6. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I would like to have one if it' at least a 60mph pitch.
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    There could be some advantage if it were certified as genuine. As for conservation, there is nothing left to conserve. The metal is gone. You can’t improve it. I image that the TPG conservation services would tell you that.
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I'll give it a PR1, the lowest grade. Enjoy its history or sell it for a better coin. My advice. Good luck.
  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Conservation won't help that one. But the historical value of that piece absolutely merits a "genuine" TPG slab.
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Actually Sheldon had a grade that was below Poor-1. It was for badly corroded pieces that were barely recognizable. The value was half his basal state number.

    For those who are not familiar with the system, Sheldon had basal state prices for each die variety in his book. You multiplied the basal state value by the grading number to get the value of the piece. Therefore a VF-20 with a basal value of $1 was worth $20.

    The system never really worked, but that didn’t stop some EAC members from coming up with “revised basal values” from time to time.
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  11. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Send it to ICG or ANACS to get it in a slab, not a huge cost, and it sounds like you want it in plastic. So I say go for it.
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  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    The reverse doesn't look too bad. But there's no way to conserve the obverse.
    There's nothing you can do for this coin. Wish I had a 1793 flowing hair.
    The grade would be corroded.
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  13. AtlantaMan

    AtlantaMan New Member

    Thanks to all for the great advice and direction! I didn't realize that the "metal was gone," so no conservation, but I will take advantage of the ICG "CoinTalk Special!"
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  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Ya keep it. We all want one too!!!
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