New Henry VI Groat (edited from VII)

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  1. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Despite having a professional interest in the period, I really don’t collect medieval coins. A coin like this, though, might change my mind.
     
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  3. alde

    alde Always Learning

    You could very well be right. This is my first goat and I'm still learning about them. Thanks for the tip. I'll try to break out the references on Monday and figure it out for sure.
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    If it's Henry VI, then it's worth more.

    I have gotten Groats & the like thinking they were one person and then they were someone else. Happy mistakes.
     
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  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I think you are correct. I have checked my references and its appears to be s 1836 for Henry VI. It is pictured in SPINK 2017 and looks like a match.
     
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  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I only have one groat. It is this Edward IV that I found in one of Harlan Berk's bid or buy sales. What surprised me was the auction came and went and no one even threw in the opening bid of 100.00. I would buy a coin like this for 100.00 every time I saw one. I especially love the "grumpy" portrait.

    Edward IV Berk.png

    Great Britain, House Of York, ND Groat, F, Edward IV, First Reign, 1461-70.
    Light coinage. London mint. 25.2mm, 2.9g.
    No marks by neck. S-2002. Nice grumpy portrait. Dark toning.
    Purchased from Harlan J Berk 201st Bid or Buy sale July 14, 2007 Lot 517
     
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  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Not sure, I was just commenting on the look of it.
     
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  8. alde

    alde Always Learning

    A happy surprise is a nice way to learn. I'll look it up after the Boston Bruins game.
     
  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Here is another.

    I think I bought this as Edward IV and its Edward III.

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    Edward III, (1327 - 1377 A.D.)
    AR Groat
    Pre-Treaty
    O: Plain Cross, HENRIC' DI' GRA' REX ANGLIE Z FRANC, crowned facing bust, rosette and mascle stops.
    R: CIVI (mascle)TAS LONDON(pinecone), long cross pattée; three pellets in angles, pinecone and double saltire stops
    London Mint
    28mm
    4.03g
     
  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    @Mat there is an annulet before the "D" in "DEVM" in the outermost legend. I think you coin is SPINK 1565. If it is then your coin was minted in 1351-1352 early pre-treaty period.
     
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  11. alde

    alde Always Learning

    You guys are the best. Sure enough it's Henry VI and Spink 1836.
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thanks.

    Didn’t have a lot of help on it the first time around.
     
  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Oh cool! Nice addition!
     
  14. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Here is another groat of Henry VIII, this one portraying the king as he appeared in his junior years.
    Henry VIII-Groat young head -Obv - 1-ccfopt.jpg Henry VIII-Groat young head -Rev - 1-ccfopt.jpg
     
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  15. alde

    alde Always Learning

    That's a really nice looking Henry VIII groat.
     
  16. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

  17. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    I only have one groat. Henry VI.

    Henry VI Groat obverse 40pct.jpg
    Henry VI Groat reverse 40pct.jpg
     
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