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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Sallent, post: 3544259, member: 76194&quot;]Dumb</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]942119[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>and Dumber</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]942120[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Together they wrecked the Roman empire, and made it possible for barbarian armies to start making their way deep into the empire&#039;s territories.</p><p><br /></p><p>Strangely though,&nbsp; lately I&#039;ve started to think that the Roman Empire did not have to collapse because of what happened at Adrianople. Instead I&#039;ve started to see Honorius as the final nail in the coffin. After Honorius there truly was no way to flog that dead horse any longer. Without Honorius the empire might have lasted on life support into the 6th century and Adrianople would seem a lot less significant than the way we see it. Who knows,&nbsp; without Honorius maybe the western empire barely limps along until Justinian reunifies both empires without the costly Western campaigns, and that would have really changed the course of history.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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