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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3254758, member: 93416"]No - that’s just not “it”.</p><p><br /></p><p>Two criticisms - one on fact - another on generational attitude</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding fact - you are just wrong. Take the major set of Hindu kings ruling Delhi in the 11th and 12th centuries, foes of the Ghaznavids and Ghorids. There is no Hindu king list. Just as our information on Ancient Persians largely comes from external Greek and Roman sources, so our historical knowledge of those Hindu kings mostly comes from external Moslem sources.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the big problem here is really your very understanding of what history is, which I would describe as Orwellian.</p><p><br /></p><p>Al-Biruni, a sort of 11th century Moslem equivalent of Voltaire, wrote a 400 page contemporary account of Hindu India whilst living there, and stated that Hindu historical accounts were largely rubbish. H C Ray, an Indian scholar who wrote 1300 pages on Hindu Dynastic History in the 1930’s, agreed his conclusion. So Donald Brown merely re-stated the common consensus on the matter. A king list and a few unreliable platitudes concerning character do not constitute history. If it did - why ever would Herodotus have been called the first historian?</p><p><br /></p><p>I wrote to Brown soon after his book came out, nice guy – he wrote a very candid reply. It was that by the 1990’s he was somewhat isolated within academic anthropology, and that most of what was put out by others in anthropology was in his view rubbish.</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with Brown. Much of what goes on today in academic anthropology and archaeology looks not like a scholarly study of the past ignorance, so much as a kind of subtle political propaganda for present ignorance.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3254758, member: 93416"]No - that’s just not “it”. Two criticisms - one on fact - another on generational attitude Regarding fact - you are just wrong. Take the major set of Hindu kings ruling Delhi in the 11th and 12th centuries, foes of the Ghaznavids and Ghorids. There is no Hindu king list. Just as our information on Ancient Persians largely comes from external Greek and Roman sources, so our historical knowledge of those Hindu kings mostly comes from external Moslem sources. But the big problem here is really your very understanding of what history is, which I would describe as Orwellian. Al-Biruni, a sort of 11th century Moslem equivalent of Voltaire, wrote a 400 page contemporary account of Hindu India whilst living there, and stated that Hindu historical accounts were largely rubbish. H C Ray, an Indian scholar who wrote 1300 pages on Hindu Dynastic History in the 1930’s, agreed his conclusion. So Donald Brown merely re-stated the common consensus on the matter. A king list and a few unreliable platitudes concerning character do not constitute history. If it did - why ever would Herodotus have been called the first historian? I wrote to Brown soon after his book came out, nice guy – he wrote a very candid reply. It was that by the 1990’s he was somewhat isolated within academic anthropology, and that most of what was put out by others in anthropology was in his view rubbish. I agree with Brown. Much of what goes on today in academic anthropology and archaeology looks not like a scholarly study of the past ignorance, so much as a kind of subtle political propaganda for present ignorance. Rob T[/QUOTE]
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