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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3251709, member: 93416"]Afraid not being a subscriber, I could not blow up the pic to see the coin. The coins I have in mind look a lot like the Peroz issues themselves, in style and fabric.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some more ramblings on the subject – which kind of fit with Maheshwari.</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider two other groups of Hindu medieval issues. One the Shahi Bull & Horseman silver, the other the king/goddess coppers usually ascribed to the Hun Toramana II.</p><p><br /></p><p>Both are broadly similar to the Indo-sasanid series in that they start with issues that are somewhat naturalistic and somewhat variable, and then converge on more rigidly stylistic and homogeneous designs. But the latter types seem to spread over 250 to 300 years, the Indo Sasanid over much longer, maybe 600 or 700 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the Shahi coins, its important to focus on what we do not know. It is noticeable in associated groups that the later Spalapati coins are often somewhat more worn than the Samanta coin. This suggests that there were at least a couple of spurts over maybe 200 years. But was issue relatively continuous over that period, or was it more a stop start situation. Who knows?</p><p><br /></p><p>On the Toramana issues I can say more – because I did by chance see a couple of groups of associated coins. One associated the early naturalistic coins with the stylised types. There was very little wear on the earlier coins (maybe GF). So the change to stylised types apparently came rapidly. The second was an association between late stylised Toramana types and later 9th century coins of Sangkara. The Toramanas were worn flat. It really looked like there had been a huge issue of these coppers maybe as early as 600 AD, and then nothing new for almost 300 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>What does this mean for the Indo-Sasanid types? It makes me very hesitant to believe they were struck in uniform numbers, year in year out – much more likely in a bunch of squirts would be my guess.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now there is a bit more potentially useful information – pointed out by Deyell years back. Thakura Pheru at the Delhi mint round about 1300 was receiving tons of looted coin from Gujarat, and would have a keen eye for the silver content of the various dishoarded coin types he saw. As I recall he distinguished 15 different kinds? I have not kept up on these matters, but to the best of my knowledge, little progress has has been made in figuring out what Pheru was talking about. However, his knowledge of alloys was excellent – so if a comprehensive study of the purity of these coins was undertaken, it might be possible to start to figure out more of what Pheru was talking about, and thus what really happened over all those centuries. And these successive re-coinages would of course - as Maheshwari says – be tied to extracting profits.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T</p><p><br /></p><p>Apologies for a boring post with no pictures! – Alice would hate it![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3251709, member: 93416"]Afraid not being a subscriber, I could not blow up the pic to see the coin. The coins I have in mind look a lot like the Peroz issues themselves, in style and fabric. Here are some more ramblings on the subject – which kind of fit with Maheshwari. Consider two other groups of Hindu medieval issues. One the Shahi Bull & Horseman silver, the other the king/goddess coppers usually ascribed to the Hun Toramana II. Both are broadly similar to the Indo-sasanid series in that they start with issues that are somewhat naturalistic and somewhat variable, and then converge on more rigidly stylistic and homogeneous designs. But the latter types seem to spread over 250 to 300 years, the Indo Sasanid over much longer, maybe 600 or 700 years. On the Shahi coins, its important to focus on what we do not know. It is noticeable in associated groups that the later Spalapati coins are often somewhat more worn than the Samanta coin. This suggests that there were at least a couple of spurts over maybe 200 years. But was issue relatively continuous over that period, or was it more a stop start situation. Who knows? On the Toramana issues I can say more – because I did by chance see a couple of groups of associated coins. One associated the early naturalistic coins with the stylised types. There was very little wear on the earlier coins (maybe GF). So the change to stylised types apparently came rapidly. The second was an association between late stylised Toramana types and later 9th century coins of Sangkara. The Toramanas were worn flat. It really looked like there had been a huge issue of these coppers maybe as early as 600 AD, and then nothing new for almost 300 years. What does this mean for the Indo-Sasanid types? It makes me very hesitant to believe they were struck in uniform numbers, year in year out – much more likely in a bunch of squirts would be my guess. Now there is a bit more potentially useful information – pointed out by Deyell years back. Thakura Pheru at the Delhi mint round about 1300 was receiving tons of looted coin from Gujarat, and would have a keen eye for the silver content of the various dishoarded coin types he saw. As I recall he distinguished 15 different kinds? I have not kept up on these matters, but to the best of my knowledge, little progress has has been made in figuring out what Pheru was talking about. However, his knowledge of alloys was excellent – so if a comprehensive study of the purity of these coins was undertaken, it might be possible to start to figure out more of what Pheru was talking about, and thus what really happened over all those centuries. And these successive re-coinages would of course - as Maheshwari says – be tied to extracting profits. Rob T Apologies for a boring post with no pictures! – Alice would hate it![/QUOTE]
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