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<p>[QUOTE="James O'Brien, post: 2801273, member: 70800"][ATTACH=full]653127[/ATTACH]</p><p>8.2g</p><p>copper</p><p>halfpenny ?</p><p><br /></p><p>This is an interesting find !</p><p><br /></p><p>At first glance, I thought it was some kind of fake Voce Populi token but then I noticed the date - so perhaps there's more to this one than I originally thought. </p><p><br /></p><p>Several questions arise ...</p><p><br /></p><p>a) is it a contemporary (1760's) counterfeit of a well known, circulating token ?</p><p> - the obverse looks similar to a Nelson 11 bust</p><p> - the date "1700" is the biggest problem (for me)</p><p> - the reverse is also unusual (head between E and R of Hibernia)</p><p> - if it is a contemporary counterfeit token, it certainly isn't a very convincing one !</p><p><br /></p><p>b) is it an evasion halfpenny ?</p><p> - the number of inconsistencies would suggest that this might be so</p><p> - do you think the "wear" is genuine, if it might have been manufactured thus ?</p><p> - only problem with this option is the fact that tokens were banned, so who would "copy" an illegal token ???</p><p> - and, again, the date "1700" is problematic for an evasion halfpenny !</p><p><br /></p><p>c) is it a later (possibly 19th C) contemporary counterfeit aimed at collectors ?</p><p> - this is my #1 choice (because, during the 19th C, collectors would not have had many references)</p><p><br /></p><p>d) is it a more recent counterfeit aimed at collectors ?</p><p> - this would be my #2 choice (albeit, not a very convincing one)</p><p> </p><p>e) unlikely, but could it be a genuine token from 1700 ?</p><p> - too many design details look like the Voce Populi tokens of 1760</p><p> - this is just way too much of a coincidence (for me) </p><p><br /></p><p>Does anyone have any feedback on these thoughts ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Bet regards,</p><p>James</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.oldcurrencyexchange.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oldcurrencyexchange.com" rel="nofollow">www.oldcurrencyexchange.com</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="James O'Brien, post: 2801273, member: 70800"][ATTACH=full]653127[/ATTACH] 8.2g copper halfpenny ? This is an interesting find ! At first glance, I thought it was some kind of fake Voce Populi token but then I noticed the date - so perhaps there's more to this one than I originally thought. Several questions arise ... a) is it a contemporary (1760's) counterfeit of a well known, circulating token ? - the obverse looks similar to a Nelson 11 bust - the date "1700" is the biggest problem (for me) - the reverse is also unusual (head between E and R of Hibernia) - if it is a contemporary counterfeit token, it certainly isn't a very convincing one ! b) is it an evasion halfpenny ? - the number of inconsistencies would suggest that this might be so - do you think the "wear" is genuine, if it might have been manufactured thus ? - only problem with this option is the fact that tokens were banned, so who would "copy" an illegal token ??? - and, again, the date "1700" is problematic for an evasion halfpenny ! c) is it a later (possibly 19th C) contemporary counterfeit aimed at collectors ? - this is my #1 choice (because, during the 19th C, collectors would not have had many references) d) is it a more recent counterfeit aimed at collectors ? - this would be my #2 choice (albeit, not a very convincing one) e) unlikely, but could it be a genuine token from 1700 ? - too many design details look like the Voce Populi tokens of 1760 - this is just way too much of a coincidence (for me) Does anyone have any feedback on these thoughts ? Bet regards, James [url="http://www.oldcurrencyexchange.com"]www.oldcurrencyexchange.com[/url][/QUOTE]
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