New fakes - Part 3 - Mark Antony times 7

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Jul 27, 2021.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here are some Mark Antony Legionary denarii from the same seller as the Domitian and Pescennius Niger

    I have seen a few other examples of these queried already but thought it worth sharing them together here

    Leg I
    MA Leg I.jpg
    Leg II
    MA Leg II.jpg
    Leg III
    MA Leg III.jpg
    Leg V
    MA Leg V.jpg
    Leg VIII
    MA Leg VIII.jpg
    Leg XII
    MA Leg XII.jpg
    Leg XX
    MA Leg XX.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Man, I hate to see these as I collect the MA Legionary series. I have yet to find a "real" Leg I" or "PRI", but if they are out there I sure would like to obtain one.

    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_II
    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_II_3.png

    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_III
    Marc Antony  Leg III (2) Denarius.jpg

    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_V
    Marcus Antonius Leg V.jpg

    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_VIII
    Marcus Antonius Leg VIII.jpg

    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_XII
    MARCUS ANTONIUS Legion XII 2.jpg

    Marcus_Antonius_Leg_XX
    Marcus Antonius Leg XX__1627392312_47.198.226.81.jpg
     
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  4. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    These fakes are very similar to the ones that Lanz has been selling off and on over the past year or so. These coins lack any of the black gunk that was applied to Lanz's coins though...

    Appreciate the ongoing vigilance - it's always great to raise awareness of these forgeries. I hope you log them in the fake coins database as well, so others can also be made aware.
     
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  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    These are very, very similar to those.
    I will be adding all the coins I identify as fakes here to the Forvm Fake Reports.
    Regards,
    Martin
     
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  6. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Perfect, Martin. Again, many thanks for raising awareness of these. I find these posts very helpful so I am aware of the fakes out there. Please continue posting these.
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    ..as soon as i saw these i knew this was your element :)...and thanks to Martin(@maridvnvm ) for enlightening us
     
  8. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    ...here's a 'unresearched' denarius with a 'bit of corrosion' up for bid... Julius Caesar fake coin.jpg
     
  9. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Supporter! Supporter

    Looks like an Augustus denarius to me.
     
  10. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    No. The figure on obverse is Julius Caesar. This is a cast copy of a denarius. The type was struck in 42 BCE under the authority of the moneyer Mussidius Longus. The moneyer's name is visible on the reverse.

    Caesar had already been assassinated two years before of course, so this is a posthumous issue.

    Another example is here: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3359221

    Again, you may like to research a little before posting.
     
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  11. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Supporter! Supporter

    I didn’t say I was sure. I just said it looked like an Augustus to me. It was a guess not a statement of fact.

    I was wrong. I admit it.

    Frankly I was just trying to see if I could identify it without looking it up and I was going to be proud of myself if I could but unfortunately I still have a lot to learn.
     
  12. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    That absurdly skinny neck is a sign of Caesar, not Augustus.
     
  13. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Supporter! Supporter

    I was going mostly based on the reverse.

    Because I remember seeing a denarius of Augustus with the “priestly implements” on the reverse and it looked almost exactly like the reverse of the denarius of Caesar’s with the elephant.

    I was actually going to make a post asking if Augustus copied it from Caesar and I figured that was the same coin as the one shared here.
     
  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Rest assured that after collecting Roman coins for a while, you'll be able to identify nearly every single emperor just by the portrait. I was in a museum in Poland about 6 years ago where they had a borrowed display of Roman Imperial coins. The curator was surprised that I could identify each coin by just a glance at the portrait. He seemed impressed. I suppose most of the observers he spoke with had no idea.
     
  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

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  16. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Supporter! Supporter

    At least I can always identify Nero due to the fat neck. xD
     
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  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Pretty dangerous fakes.

    My own leg is so worn it wouldn't be worth it to fake... right...
    Mark Antony legionary denarius.JPG
     
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