New fakes - Part 1 - Domitian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Jul 27, 2021.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have started a parallel thread to this over on Forvm but thought it worth duplicating here as I know that there are people who do not frequent both sites.

    I have been watching the output of a seller on ebay that has been introducing quite a few coins that I have have not seen offered before. The coins all appear to be cast.

    Whilst the following characteristics are not in themselves damning they are worthy of note. The seller purports to be based in Austria but is actually in Bulgaria. All the auctions are private.

    In an interesting twist they seller generally offers the coins in either a BuyItNow (Make Offer) format or has a standard auction format but with the starting price in the $200-$300 range. This seems to be a tactic to create credibility in the knowledge of the seller in that they are not starting everything at $1. Many of the types are scarce / rare.

    This is the first that I wanted to share. It has all the signs of being cast. No characteristics of a struck coin. Soft details, rounded edges, evidence of casting pits, remnants of casting sprue at 4 o'clock on reverse.

    Domitian AR Denarius
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERMANIC COS XIIII, Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, right
    Rev: CENS P P P across field, Minerva stg. left, with spear
    Rome mint, 88 AD
    References - RIC 569 (Rated R). BMC 140. RSC 26a.
    Weight 3.38 gms

    Domitian Obv.jpg Domitian Rev.jpg

    Thoughts?
    Martin
     
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  3. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    Martin, Thanks for the alert :happy:! I agree, this coin screams FAKE.
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  4. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    The piece is indeed a cast forgery. Depending on the photography this fake can be dangerously deceptive. I recently had to warn a fellow collector about it.

    NB:A similar cast (with more deceptive photography).

    Dom COS XIIII cast.jpg
     
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  5. norantyki

    norantyki CoinMuncher

    Fake for sure - your diagnostics paired with no evidence of flow lines.
     
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  6. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    I glad you guys are out there trying to help others against this.. TY much!!
     
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    ..yeah, that lQQks to be some of 'antiquiti's coins...those Bulgarians....they list like its shipping from the UK, but if you look on their page, they are indeed in Bulgaria..peeps need to look at the Forums fake seller list...
     
  8. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your continued vigilance - it is much appreciated!
     
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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I really hope people find such posts useful. I am happy to continue doing these if people find them useful / interesting.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Thank you. Your posts are always very helpful and informative, Martin. Personally, I appreciate them very much.
     
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  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

    Great informative posts Martin. Thanks a lot

    Q
     
  12. Arcane76

    Arcane76 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for posting that here! Very much appreciated!
     
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