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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cascade, post: 2305804, member: 75984&quot;]Sorry,</p><p>LDS= Late Die State</p><p>VLDS = Very Late Die State (almost to the point of failure)</p><p><br /></p><p>These are terms used when describing a die that is over the hump of its strike life. See those lines that seem to radiate from the center out to the rim. Those are called flow lines which are caused by the slight pushing of metal outward. These flow lines are the first sign of a coin struck on a LDS and beyond die[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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