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<p>[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 2000699, member: 29643"]gx, in the first scenario, I don't see *that* much of a problem. I would simply have told the buyer that you'll gladly accept a return of the coin for a full refund, since the coin is obviously worth much more than the $10 they paid.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, onto the broader issue that medora noted... I think the reason why coin collecting gets targeted as "get rich and flip" is due to advertisements. Similar to how there were lots of postage stamp value advertisements in the 70s/80s, coins (mainly in the form of bullion) are being touted constantly as a way to riches. This, coupled with the "real world"-style auction shows and pawn shows, make people think they can make a ton flipping coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>The funnier thing is a show called Barter Kings. Basically, the premise (if you haven't heard of it) is these two guys own a store that deals solely in barter (even though they will sell items for cash off-site from the store) and use Craigslist to make their trades. Now, this, coupled with CL already being full of crooks and shadiness, has lead everyone to not want to be the "loser" in a transaction. Case in point, I was selling a register for my friend. I asked $350, expecting to get around $200 (my friend wanted $250-$500, but I told him $150-$200 was likely more reasonable). Someone tells me they'll buy it for $350. I show up at their worksite, as requested, and the guy looks at the machine and offers $175. I call my friend and tell him. He tells me $175 isn't enough. I tell him if it doesn't sell, I'm dropping it back at his house, as I don't want to be responsible for the stupid thing anymore. He says do whatever I think is right.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, I ask the buyer why he didn't just offer $175 to begin with. He says "If I offered $175, you would have just said no. Now since you're here, you're more likely to sell to me." I did sell it, since I was tired of storing the stupid thing for my friend, but if it were mine, I would have honestly thrown it into the dumpster down the street rather than sell to someone who intentionally was being a jerk about the trade. It's one thing if he came to me (I would have gladly taken a lower price, since he showed he wanted it), but I had to find him AND load the stupid thing into my car.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, the point of all of this is that it could be ALL hobbies are receiving this type of ludicrous "buy to flip" offers. The funniest, to date, was someone offering to buy a $1200 baseball bat from me for $385 on the premise that I paid $450. I told him "You know what? I'm just going to offer it to the three top collectors of that particular player for my purchase price plus expenses (fees and shipping), since I know they will appreciate it rather than try to flip it." He responded with a bevy of expletives and called me an idiot. True to my word, I sold the bat to the #2 collector of the player. He actually offered me $100 more than I asked, but I told him the story and said I wanted to keep my word. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 2000699, member: 29643"]gx, in the first scenario, I don't see *that* much of a problem. I would simply have told the buyer that you'll gladly accept a return of the coin for a full refund, since the coin is obviously worth much more than the $10 they paid. Now, onto the broader issue that medora noted... I think the reason why coin collecting gets targeted as "get rich and flip" is due to advertisements. Similar to how there were lots of postage stamp value advertisements in the 70s/80s, coins (mainly in the form of bullion) are being touted constantly as a way to riches. This, coupled with the "real world"-style auction shows and pawn shows, make people think they can make a ton flipping coins. The funnier thing is a show called Barter Kings. Basically, the premise (if you haven't heard of it) is these two guys own a store that deals solely in barter (even though they will sell items for cash off-site from the store) and use Craigslist to make their trades. Now, this, coupled with CL already being full of crooks and shadiness, has lead everyone to not want to be the "loser" in a transaction. Case in point, I was selling a register for my friend. I asked $350, expecting to get around $200 (my friend wanted $250-$500, but I told him $150-$200 was likely more reasonable). Someone tells me they'll buy it for $350. I show up at their worksite, as requested, and the guy looks at the machine and offers $175. I call my friend and tell him. He tells me $175 isn't enough. I tell him if it doesn't sell, I'm dropping it back at his house, as I don't want to be responsible for the stupid thing anymore. He says do whatever I think is right. So, I ask the buyer why he didn't just offer $175 to begin with. He says "If I offered $175, you would have just said no. Now since you're here, you're more likely to sell to me." I did sell it, since I was tired of storing the stupid thing for my friend, but if it were mine, I would have honestly thrown it into the dumpster down the street rather than sell to someone who intentionally was being a jerk about the trade. It's one thing if he came to me (I would have gladly taken a lower price, since he showed he wanted it), but I had to find him AND load the stupid thing into my car. Anyway, the point of all of this is that it could be ALL hobbies are receiving this type of ludicrous "buy to flip" offers. The funniest, to date, was someone offering to buy a $1200 baseball bat from me for $385 on the premise that I paid $450. I told him "You know what? I'm just going to offer it to the three top collectors of that particular player for my purchase price plus expenses (fees and shipping), since I know they will appreciate it rather than try to flip it." He responded with a bevy of expletives and called me an idiot. True to my word, I sold the bat to the #2 collector of the player. He actually offered me $100 more than I asked, but I told him the story and said I wanted to keep my word. :D[/QUOTE]
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