New Daniel Carr over-strike coins

Stunning pictures!! Very well done

 

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Agree, beautiful pictures!

Now I am dying to get mine but I "just" ordered them over the weekend

 

Here is one of the Owls.

I realize it's not actually titled "Owl", but it's much easier to use.

 

If we call it that enough maybe he will change it

 

It's just a nickname

 

Dream killer lol.

 

Hater will be haters all right , and the Carr boys hate it when someone has a different opinion , like the reverse dies are against the law no matter what the intent . Try reading the statute on making any dies of United States coins , the problem is Mr. Carr knows this but does everything in his power to make you "lovers" believe they're ok . But I guess If someone has a different opinion the lovers will jump right on them . Like the last thread on a Carr piece , I had a simple question for Mr. Carr who wouldn't answer it as it had to do with his scanning the coins and having a CNC machine engrave the dies and why this leads to a less detailed coin . Simple question but no answer , one that would have helped me and others understand the newer making of dies . Yet I was called a hater for asking a simple question . Way to go guys !!!!!

 

Carr boys! I like it

And it's not that they have different opinions, it's that they constantly spew their nonsense ad naseum in every single thread. They are the numismatic equivalent of certain 'agitators' we see in the news lately and it gets old. If you guys insist on spreading the BS we will defend against it and get dan a few more "lovers" in the process

 

Funny you say his coins have less details. Pretty sure he got Full Bands, and the mint could not.

 

>>> "reverse dies are against the law no matter what the intent"
If this were true, then every single reproduction coin ever made would be illegal, including those endorsed by the Smithsonian Institution, etc. But it is not true.

What was the specific question you asked previously ? I never saw it. Please post a link to that thread here and I will go look at it.

Going by what you posted above here, I would say that any time a transfer is made from a coin, to a mold, to a die, or vice-versa, there will always be some slight losses and degradation in translation. This is true for physical-to-physical transfers, physical-to-digital transfers, and digital-to-physical transfers. Even the best photocopier will show deterioration of the image after a few generations of copies.

 

You're correct there , but I wouldn't put his machine made dies up against Weinman's original hand engraved dies .

 

Actually the problem really is just that a lot of people like to project what they want the law to be to how they feel the law should be. Wants and feelings aren't law. No one cares if people don't like them, no one should tell anyone else what they should or have to collect or like.

The real problem is the its illegal nonsense getting spouted over and over and over again and this idea that somehow things are illegal until proven to be legal. Unless the people who want this work in law enforcement or the department of justice their feelings don't matter yet EVERY thread gets the same nonsense over and over again. That is what people get tired of hearing when all the evidence we have points to the exact opposite.

 

Well you answered part of my post so you must have seen the 2nd half though when I have time I'll look it up for you as I'd really like to hear your answer as you know more about the modern die making procedure than most of this board especially me .

 

Weinman did not engrave dies by hand.

Weinman, like everyone else at the mint in the early 1900s, sculpted the designs in a large format relief (typically about 9 inches in diameter). This sculpting was done in clay and/or plaster. The plasters were then used for making galvanos which would be mounted on a reduction lathe to make a master hub.

So the dies came from the master hub which was engraved by a machine.

 

Here , I coppied my question here for you @dcarr . Sorry I thought this was written in the same post as the one you answered , my bad .


Now this one has some nice detail on it , and nice for a club piece . I wish Mr.Carr could explain why CNC engravers and computer scans cause a loss of detail on coins , like the lack of stripes and bars on the shield and also why the MInt can't seem to get FSBs on their Mercury gold coins ?

 

Yes I worded it wrong . Completely . I meant he made the design by hand .

 

The US Mint was able to produce Winged Liberty Head dimes with full bands in 1916-1945. The original sculpture had full split bands. Their Janvier reduction lathe was able to transfer that detail from the sculpt to the master hubs. And that detail subsequently transferred ok from the master hubs to the master dies, then working hubs, then working dies, and then to many (but not all) of the struck coins.

The US Mint's 2016 gold dime does not have full split bands because that detail was never present in their 2016 sculpt. I do not know why the US Mint chose not to have the full split bands. There is no technical issue preventing it.

 

So it's like they don't care enough to copy the design as it was originally designed . The way one story reported it it was because of the new way they made the dies . I thought they did away with the galvanos and reducing lathe . So do they still use them ?

 

The US Mint may still use traditional sculpts/galvanos for some things. Others are done digitally. I think the new 2016 gold dimes were done digitally. The report that they couldn't do full bands due to the use of new (digital) technology originated from a statement by US Mint spokesperson Michael White.

 

I knew I heard that but couldn't recall where , thanks .