New Daniel Carr Morgan Dollar

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jwitten, Oct 8, 2016.

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  1. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I dont love him. The 1964 morgan is the first piece of his ive bought. I just look at things from a business perspective, and i dont think the way he does things should change.
     
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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    That's the best you could find is me asking in my op post that it not turn into a hate thread. Oh boy. Time to go troll someone else Books. I'm not your huckleberry
     
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  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    ...or he goes blind; in which case he'll start loosing lots of money as the vultures pick him off. Wait, the coins are way over priced so no worry. :smuggrin:
     
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  5. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I don't love him either. But that doesn't mean I won't buy something one of these days. Call us the in-betweeners, I suppose.
     
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  6. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I have always thought that many of his creations look whizzed.
     
  7. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Don't apologize; I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss something interesting (e.g. Julian throwing one of these on eBay for $10,000 swearing that the coins are legit).

    To be clear, I do not think Julian would intentionally commit fraud, but as pointed out, I think his age is starting to affect his numismatic judgment (e.g. polished Columbian Half Dollars that are now proof, etc.). I am not slamming the man at all.
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    If he were to do something like that (and I'm not saying he would. Just anyone doing such a fraud), the coin community would be all over him like a duck on a June Bug........
     
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think everyone here should drop by Julian's table at one of the shows and chat with him for a few minutes. Form your opinion of the man based on that visit and not on what you see being posted. I only see him once a year but feel he is still really sharp and on top of things.
     
  10. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    They were falsely marketed as official German Mint re-strikes.
     
  11. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    "The FTC described fantasy coins as genuine coins altered to have novel date variations not found on original coinage."

    Please cite the specific reference where the FTC made this statement in regards to genuine coins altered to have novel dates. I don't believe such a statement exists.

    The only similar statement I am aware of is in regards to the Gold Bullion International case where novel-date German Wilhelm gold coins were struck on new blanks (NOT over-strikes on existing coins) and were then falsely marketed as genuine German Mint products.
     
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  12. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    Your characterization is misleading regarding what I have on my web site in relation to copies of my work. My web site has pictures of Chinese "1964-D" and "1965" Peace Dollars (struck on junk metal, NOT over-strikes). The reason for that is to inform people of the diagnostics of my work compared to the Chinese pieces. In the past, there have been cases of people selling Chinese Peace Dollars on eBay that were falsely attributed by those sellers as my work.

    Also depicted on my web site are unauthorized Chinese copies of my original copyrighted Amero coin designs. (In contrast note that the Peace Dollar design is public domain and can not be copyrighted).

    Why is the work of one artist valued far higher than that of another ?
    Often it involves general notoriety and being the first to do a certain type of thing. I often use the example of Andy Warhol's paintings of a Campbell's soup can label. If someone else came along and started painting soup cans, even if expertly done, they would never be valued at the level of Warhol's work.
     
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  13. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    Every coin ever made is potentially a scammer's tool.
    When such things happen, blame the person who is actually committing the fraud.
     
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Dan, you play a part in the fraud if you choose not to do anything. It's the sin of inaction, if you will. Please accept responsibility for it and make it right. Add your signature to all your pieces and you'll make it exponentially harder for a scammer to take advantage of someone. The words on your website are great, but your actions will speak much louder.
     
  15. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE


    Yep, 1914-D and 1911-D come to mind.
     
  16. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    and many more
     
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  17. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    If he put DC on the back of each coin some would think that's the Washington D.C. Mint, it's rare.....;)
     
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    You're deflecting with humor. If he signed his work.... however he chose to do that. It would greatly reduce the chances of his pieces being the subject of a scam.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2016
  19. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE


    Got an example?
     
  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Example of what? The potential scam? Oh, right, everyone on the interwebs is honest. I forgot. It's an inevitability. Stay tuned.
     
  21. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Ain't got one huh, didn't think so.
     
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