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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 713831, member: 16510&quot;]<b>Thank&#039;s that&#039;s what I want to know, you phrased it better than I did!</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thank&#039;s that&#039;s what I wanted to know, you phrased it a little better than I did! </p><p>But it can go either way can&#039;t it?&nbsp; What did they do then that was right that they are not doing now?&nbsp; What are they doing now that they didn&#039;t do then - Whatever way you want to ask it - the question is the same.&nbsp; If they knew they were going to gear up to make copper cents in 2009, and they did, - if they had made them for decades before without readily toning problems both proof and regular cents, and they did, if they had a good supplier for copper cents for years and they did, if they had a good procedure for cleaning and treating copper palnchets for years, and they did - just what happened at the mint in 2009 regarding such quick toning problems for the new copper cents???</p><p>I think there is 3 possible areas for the problems and I&#039;m just taking a leap here but,,,</p><p>1. Where are the copper planchets from?&nbsp; Are they using the supplier they used to use?&nbsp; Is he in buisness any longer?&nbsp; Did they put it out for bid and maybe pick the wrong supplier?</p><p>2. At least for the proofs I have seen could the foam insert and/or lose cases be the problem?</p><p>3. Is there a procedure in place at the mint today that contributed to the toning that they are not willing to either tell us about or are they trying a modern fix to the problem without success and just settling for the old &quot;well copper tones quickly, what can you expect???</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The mint is either doing something or not doing something that is causing new copper cents to tone almost as soon as they are minted and I do not think anyone would have ever predicted that this would happen until it has.&nbsp; To me that&#039;s very suspect to say the least.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>There will be an answer but I do not know when it will be or how it will be conveyed to us.</p><p>Just like any answer from the Govt. it goes like this:</p><p>No it didn&#039;t happen, didn&#039;t happen. didn&#039;t happen,,, well it might have, might have,,, well it did, it did but it&#039;s not as you think it was, blada, blada, blada and so on until they defuse it enough to bore us to tears and we no longer care because they drag it out until half of us are dead and thet other half no longer is interested.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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