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<p>[QUOTE="CoinOKC, post: 40404, member: 2146"]I'm happy you agree, Ed.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why not teach about all the good things they did, but also inform our children of the facts? Let's not repeat the mistakes of our fathers and let us not hide the truth. I think Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence was one of the most magnificently inspired documents from the "mind of man". However, his ownership of slaves was despicable. Should we deify this man, place him on a pedestal and glorify him? The answer is "no". Should we respect the man for fostering a revolution against tyranny, for his brilliance in the principle of Human Rights, for his accomplishments as an inventor and for his willingness to form a democracy at the peril of his own life? The answer is a resounding "yes". </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think you misunderstand. The point that I was trying to make was that our Founding Fathers knew they weren't perfect. They reserved "perfection" to a supreme being.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The framers of the Constitution understood that they could not foresee inevitable changes in our country. Therefore, they allowed for change in the very constitution they so bitterly fought over. That's one of the reasons that I believe the Constitution is so tremendous - it's flexible, by nature.</p><p><br /></p><p>Had the framers wanted no person (living or dead) to appear on coinage, they would have placed such wording in the Constitution. I think they would rather see a debate as to whether a person (living or dead) should appear on coinage. Isn't political discourse the American Way?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Had the Constitution been based on the principle of slavery, then you may have a point. Since it wasn't, the point is groundless.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not "razzled" as you so eloquently put it. "Dazzled" perhaps, but not "razzled"... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I never said they were "evil". Please don't put words in my mouth.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I never said their writings and historical contributions should all be taken with a "grain of salt". Quite to the contrary, I believe our Founding Fathers were extremely brilliant and I wish their "historical contributions" could be echoed by many of the world's leaders today.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>When did they decide that no person (living or dead) should grace our coins? Did they express that in the Constitution? Or did they simply voice their opinion? If they voiced their opinion, then I applaud their freedom to do so (thank you, First Amendment). If it's in the Constitution, I must have missed it. Founding Father or not, their opinion is worth no more than yours or mine.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, this particular group of slave owners gave us a form of government unparalleled in the history of mankind. And with their brilliant foresight, they gave us the power to abolish slavery. For that simple fact alone, I think it's enough that we recognize them on our coinage.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CoinOKC, post: 40404, member: 2146"]I'm happy you agree, Ed. Why not teach about all the good things they did, but also inform our children of the facts? Let's not repeat the mistakes of our fathers and let us not hide the truth. I think Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence was one of the most magnificently inspired documents from the "mind of man". However, his ownership of slaves was despicable. Should we deify this man, place him on a pedestal and glorify him? The answer is "no". Should we respect the man for fostering a revolution against tyranny, for his brilliance in the principle of Human Rights, for his accomplishments as an inventor and for his willingness to form a democracy at the peril of his own life? The answer is a resounding "yes". I think you misunderstand. The point that I was trying to make was that our Founding Fathers knew they weren't perfect. They reserved "perfection" to a supreme being. The framers of the Constitution understood that they could not foresee inevitable changes in our country. Therefore, they allowed for change in the very constitution they so bitterly fought over. That's one of the reasons that I believe the Constitution is so tremendous - it's flexible, by nature. Had the framers wanted no person (living or dead) to appear on coinage, they would have placed such wording in the Constitution. I think they would rather see a debate as to whether a person (living or dead) should appear on coinage. Isn't political discourse the American Way? Had the Constitution been based on the principle of slavery, then you may have a point. Since it wasn't, the point is groundless. I'm not "razzled" as you so eloquently put it. "Dazzled" perhaps, but not "razzled"... :) I never said they were "evil". Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said their writings and historical contributions should all be taken with a "grain of salt". Quite to the contrary, I believe our Founding Fathers were extremely brilliant and I wish their "historical contributions" could be echoed by many of the world's leaders today. When did they decide that no person (living or dead) should grace our coins? Did they express that in the Constitution? Or did they simply voice their opinion? If they voiced their opinion, then I applaud their freedom to do so (thank you, First Amendment). If it's in the Constitution, I must have missed it. Founding Father or not, their opinion is worth no more than yours or mine. Well, this particular group of slave owners gave us a form of government unparalleled in the history of mankind. And with their brilliant foresight, they gave us the power to abolish slavery. For that simple fact alone, I think it's enough that we recognize them on our coinage.[/QUOTE]
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