New Carinus Tetradrachm

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  1. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Another win in the Frank Robinson auction is this Alexandrian Tetradrachm which fills a hole in my collection as I have tracked down another emperor that I did not have.

    Carinus (283-284 A.D.)

    AE Tetradrachm of Alexandria, 19mm 7.19 grams

    Year 2 = 284 AD.

    Obverse: A K M A KAΡINOC CEB, laureate, cuirassed bust right

    Reverse: L-B, Elpis standing left holding flower and hem of skirt.

    Reference: Milne 4701-3, BMC 2454, Koln 3177

    Please feel free to show any tets or other examples of this short-lived dynasty, e.g. Carus, Carinus, and Numerian.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice, I have the same type.

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    Carinus (283-284 A.D.)
    EGYPT, Alexandria
    Tetradrachm
    Obv.: AKMAKA PINOCCEB; Laureate, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: Elpis standing left, holding flower and clutching hem of robe; across fields L-B
    year 2, CE 283/4, Augustus
    18 mm,
    6.2 gm
    Ref: Emmett 4007.2, R1
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Carinus Potin Tet:

    RI Carinus 282-285 CE BI Potin Tet 19mm 8.1g Alexandria Egypt 19mm Athena Seated holding Nike.jpg
    RI Carinus 282-285 CE BI Potin Tet 19mm 8.1g Alexandria Egypt 19mm Athena Seated holding Nike
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Watch for the Carinus legion 2 (B) reverse. They are not all that rare but when you get a legion named on a coin, it is not a bad thing.
    Legion Two Traianus year 3.
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  6. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Congrats, @ancient coin hunter! I know how exciting it is to add a new name to the list... I just recently made a purchase that adds a few, including Carus (it's in transit).

    I've got a few of Carinus, none being Elpis:

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    Carinus (as Caesar), Ruled 282-283 AD
    AE Tetradrachm, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 282/283 AD
    Obverse: A K MA KAPINOC K, laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: Tyche standing left, holding rudder and cornucopiae, date LA in upper left field (year 1=282/283 AD).
    References: Emmett 4012, Dattari 5576, Köln 3172
    Ex: Naville Numismatics, Auction 49, Lot #203 (5-12-2019)


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    Carinus, Ruled 283-285 AD
    AE Tetradrachm, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 283/284 AD
    Obverse: A K M A KAPINOC CЄB, laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: Eagle standing facing, head right, between two vexilla, LB above, RY 2.
    References: Emmett 4005, Dattari 5596
    Size: 19mm, 7.5g
    Ex: The Reverend Willis McGill Collection (McGill was an American missionary stationed in Egypt, who started collecting there during World War I)


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    Carinus, (as Caesar), Ruled 283-285 AD
    AE Tetradrachm, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 282/283 AD
    Obverse: A K M A KAPINOC K, laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: Eagle standing facing, head right, between two vexilla, LA above, RY 1.
    References: Emmett 4005, SNG Cop 951
    Size: 19mm, 7.26g
     
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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice @Justin Lee - some great examples and also a nice envelope in there. You mentioned the provenance of the Dattari 5596 coin (Reverend McGill) so he must have got it (and probably lots of other coins) in Egypt. The weird thing is that I have been in the country several times (most recently during the Arab Spring) and I have never seen a Ptolemaic or Roman Egypt coin for sale. However a couple of dealers in other Arab countries seem to have lots of them available (in the hundreds) so my theory is that most of them are squirreled out of the country by clandestine brokers (or smugglers of antiquities) who also make a market in small statuettes of the gods, scarabs, oil lamps, and ushabtis.
     
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  8. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I was very happy to have won a Numerian tetradrachm in last Robinson auction. The preservation is excellent, and it's an uncommon type: Numerian as caesar, under his father Carus as emperor, year A = 1 (282-283), Emmett 4018.

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  9. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    This one of Numerian's father Carus I won in last January's auction of Frank Robinson.

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    Tetradrachm Carus (282-283). Obv. Laureate draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev. Dikaiosyne standing. Year A = 282. 17 mm, 7.69 gr. Emmett 3396.

    And at a German auction, a year earlier, I bought this trio of Numerian (as emperor) and Carinus, making my collection of this short-lived dynasty complete enough.

    3290-92 Carinus Num a ct.jpg

    3290-92 Carinus Num b ct.jpg
     
  10. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Nice collection!
     
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    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

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