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<p>[QUOTE="AnYangMan, post: 2839697, member: 87271"]Thanks again to everyone for the incredibly warm welcomes!</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=81887]@Parthicus[/USER] Wow, I love that Liang-yi spade! From an older Chinese collection recently sold via Steve Album, right? I still need this inscription for my fangzubu collection, and yours is absolutely stunning! Congratulations! If you ever want to part with it… <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fish money is indeed a fascinating subject. While it is generally accepted that the previous generations of numismatists were wrong in describing these fishes as ‘money’ (the same goes for Bridge-, shield- and grater-money), since we have no evidence of this, they are quite interesting. They haven’t been found in archaeological contexts too often, and when they have, they are found lying (sometimes neatly organised in a rectangle) around coffins. They are found primarily in the west of then inhabited China, primarily in what used to be the state of Guo in Shang/Western Zhou times, but others interpret them as being part of Ba/Shu burial culture. Anyway, it is most likely that these fishes indeed weren’t money (there are quite a few arguments to support this), but rather some kind of good luck-token for the afterlife, for fishes were considered lucky in these early cultures. In my opinion, they are still more than worth collecting, and I too have a few. @<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/ancientcoinguru.75563/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/ancientcoinguru.75563/">ancientcoinguru</a>; one of my favourites, a rather simple shape, I have not seen too often. It is an ex-Jeff Young ‘coin’:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]671489[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]671490[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Nice to see that there is such an active community of Dutchies here as well! [USER=74834]@Pellinore[/USER], that is indeed a beautiful coin. Coins like this, with an interesting story to tell, are precisely what the generalist in me likes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks again to everyone,</p><p><br /></p><p>Mika[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AnYangMan, post: 2839697, member: 87271"]Thanks again to everyone for the incredibly warm welcomes! [USER=81887]@Parthicus[/USER] Wow, I love that Liang-yi spade! From an older Chinese collection recently sold via Steve Album, right? I still need this inscription for my fangzubu collection, and yours is absolutely stunning! Congratulations! If you ever want to part with it… ;). Fish money is indeed a fascinating subject. While it is generally accepted that the previous generations of numismatists were wrong in describing these fishes as ‘money’ (the same goes for Bridge-, shield- and grater-money), since we have no evidence of this, they are quite interesting. They haven’t been found in archaeological contexts too often, and when they have, they are found lying (sometimes neatly organised in a rectangle) around coffins. They are found primarily in the west of then inhabited China, primarily in what used to be the state of Guo in Shang/Western Zhou times, but others interpret them as being part of Ba/Shu burial culture. Anyway, it is most likely that these fishes indeed weren’t money (there are quite a few arguments to support this), but rather some kind of good luck-token for the afterlife, for fishes were considered lucky in these early cultures. In my opinion, they are still more than worth collecting, and I too have a few. @[URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/ancientcoinguru.75563/']ancientcoinguru[/URL]; one of my favourites, a rather simple shape, I have not seen too often. It is an ex-Jeff Young ‘coin’: [ATTACH=full]671489[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]671490[/ATTACH] Nice to see that there is such an active community of Dutchies here as well! [USER=74834]@Pellinore[/USER], that is indeed a beautiful coin. Coins like this, with an interesting story to tell, are precisely what the generalist in me likes. Thanks again to everyone, Mika[/QUOTE]
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