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<p>[QUOTE="Victor, post: 163804, member: 5454"]Here's the long story I would have skipped if the coin was authentic. This jeweler had 2 indian heads in his store. I was looking at some other Gold and he reached down and placed these two right in front of the showcase under my nose.</p><p>They were in 2X2 holders, one marked 1925 ($150) and the other 1925D ($195).</p><p>The first he said was VF and the1925 D was AU. I asked for a deal if I got both.</p><p>He said both for $325 then waited on someone else. So I told his wife I wanted them.</p><p>I gave her 4 hundred dollar bills. She gave me $65 change and said "Is that right?" I shook my head no.</p><p>Then she produced another $10. After asking for a receipt, he made it out for $350.</p><p> I went home and grabbed my Redbook, there is no such thing as a 1925</p><p>without the D. I called him up and said I wanted to return it. He said I must return both.</p><p>So I drove there the next day and returned both. Only he wouldn't look at me and his daughter returned my cash with an added $25.00. I then purchased back the 1925D for $195 using their $25 and ending up paying $170 of my money.</p><p>Now to answer your question Bruce, I started taking it around to dealers. The first, Lincoln Coins in</p><p>Worcester, MA said it might be fake or might be whizzed. They wanted me to submit it to ANACS.</p><p>I then took it to a dealer in Putnam, CT. At first he offered me $100. Then I asked if it was real and he </p><p>started looking closer. A book he has says there is supposed to be a faint wire rim from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock but in no other place. Authentic coins have this peculiar trait.</p><p>This coin did not.</p><p>All along when I looked closer with a 10X loupe I thought I saw a few tiny bubbles and cast flashing traces.</p><p>I then went to a 3rd dealer who wasn't there.</p><p>I took it then to Vasbro Coins in Norwich, CT. That guy said within 20 seconds of looking at it that it was a knock off casting. Several dealers weighed it. It was in close range weight wise. It was real gold, but cast.</p><p>It is jeweler's costume jewelry for necklaces.</p><p>I then called the jeweler. He wasn't there. I told the daughter it was fake and I want my money back.</p><p>She said he wasn't there but would be tomorrow at eleven.</p><p>When I first called about the other coin (with no D) he asked if it was still in the holder he sold it in.</p><p>That coin was. But now I had taken this coin out to weigh it and put it in a new 2X2.</p><p>I STAYED UP LATE AGONIZING. I decided to slip it back in the holder it came in. Poor job.</p><p>I ended up wrapping the 2X2 with clear postal tape, then worried all night.</p><p>Drove right to his store at 11am the next day. Deja Vu. He didn't look at me and the daughter returned my cash. And again this time I got the extra $25. The Warwick police station is right across the street.</p><p>How many have they sold that never got discovered? They have a set routine.</p><p>The guy makes the deal.</p><p>The wife handles the money and tries to cheat you in change.</p><p>Any gripes or returns are handled by the daughter.</p><p>Now how badly do you think I want a real one?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Victor, post: 163804, member: 5454"]Here's the long story I would have skipped if the coin was authentic. This jeweler had 2 indian heads in his store. I was looking at some other Gold and he reached down and placed these two right in front of the showcase under my nose. They were in 2X2 holders, one marked 1925 ($150) and the other 1925D ($195). The first he said was VF and the1925 D was AU. I asked for a deal if I got both. He said both for $325 then waited on someone else. So I told his wife I wanted them. I gave her 4 hundred dollar bills. She gave me $65 change and said "Is that right?" I shook my head no. Then she produced another $10. After asking for a receipt, he made it out for $350. I went home and grabbed my Redbook, there is no such thing as a 1925 without the D. I called him up and said I wanted to return it. He said I must return both. So I drove there the next day and returned both. Only he wouldn't look at me and his daughter returned my cash with an added $25.00. I then purchased back the 1925D for $195 using their $25 and ending up paying $170 of my money. Now to answer your question Bruce, I started taking it around to dealers. The first, Lincoln Coins in Worcester, MA said it might be fake or might be whizzed. They wanted me to submit it to ANACS. I then took it to a dealer in Putnam, CT. At first he offered me $100. Then I asked if it was real and he started looking closer. A book he has says there is supposed to be a faint wire rim from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock but in no other place. Authentic coins have this peculiar trait. This coin did not. All along when I looked closer with a 10X loupe I thought I saw a few tiny bubbles and cast flashing traces. I then went to a 3rd dealer who wasn't there. I took it then to Vasbro Coins in Norwich, CT. That guy said within 20 seconds of looking at it that it was a knock off casting. Several dealers weighed it. It was in close range weight wise. It was real gold, but cast. It is jeweler's costume jewelry for necklaces. I then called the jeweler. He wasn't there. I told the daughter it was fake and I want my money back. She said he wasn't there but would be tomorrow at eleven. When I first called about the other coin (with no D) he asked if it was still in the holder he sold it in. That coin was. But now I had taken this coin out to weigh it and put it in a new 2X2. I STAYED UP LATE AGONIZING. I decided to slip it back in the holder it came in. Poor job. I ended up wrapping the 2X2 with clear postal tape, then worried all night. Drove right to his store at 11am the next day. Deja Vu. He didn't look at me and the daughter returned my cash. And again this time I got the extra $25. The Warwick police station is right across the street. How many have they sold that never got discovered? They have a set routine. The guy makes the deal. The wife handles the money and tries to cheat you in change. Any gripes or returns are handled by the daughter. Now how badly do you think I want a real one?[/QUOTE]
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