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Message:: [QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 447722, member: 12965"]I saw another auction like this with a 1804 DBC that someone sent in to a TPG (top one - PCGS I think) and it was also body-bagged. They too used the submitting form to convince peeps it was authentic but it wasn't. We discussed it extensively on CFE and members there said the first thing they do is determine if it's gradable and if it isn't, it's body-bagged and no further service is provided. So there's no note on the submitter's form that the submitter got something wrong. I think the TPG's should go that next step and determine if it's what the submitter submitted and make the appropriate notes when it isn't, that way the submission form cannot be used as it was in that auction and this auction. The TPG's are providing peeps with formidable evidence that it is what they say it is, even though the knowledgeable peeps know it isn't formidable.  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  But we all know that there are a lot of peeps that buy the coin, not the book.  :whistle:  Ribbit  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]