Never seen this before. 2000D

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by RBurk, Apr 16, 2021.

  1. RBurk

    RBurk Active Member

    Double? No listing that I am able to find. If not a double what could it be? WIN_20210416_16_24_21_Pro.jpg WIN_20210416_16_24_03_Pro.jpg WIN_20210416_16_24_43_Pro.jpg WIN_20210416_16_25_06_Pro.jpg WIN_20210416_16_25_29_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Not a doubled die its one of the forms of no added value doubling most likely.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Casual Collector / error expert "in Training "

    Very common Cent / Normal . ;)
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Nice pics but it's still only worth 1 cent! Better luck next time! ;)
     
  6. RBurk

    RBurk Active Member

    Very common date for sure but I've never seen a doubled flower pot nearly this extreme before. How can you call this normal?
     
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  7. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    I echo all three.
     
  8. RBurk

    RBurk Active Member

    So how did that happen then? To me (very novice) it looks like maybe the engraving is incomplete.
     
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  9. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    I do not know the answer, but IMO, the most likely cause is a dragging action occurred when the die leaves the coin surface after the strike.
     
  10. RBurk

    RBurk Active Member

    Okay, but wouldn't that show elsewhere on the strike? Also, is it coincidence that there appears to be a die crack at the upper left corner of it?
     
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  11. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Check the columns.
     
  12. RBurk

    RBurk Active Member

    To me, the columns look perfectly normal.
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Did you ever see how cents are born? Or are you assuming it's a careful operation? There are videos on YouTube of cents being born. After you see one of those what you should be wondering is how any of them could ever come out as the Almighty Mint had intended. What you're seeing here is a consequence of the strike. The planchet moved a little, it wasn't a dead-on strike, that's all that is you're getting all worked up about. Watch one of those videos, it should be a good learning experience...
     
  14. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Check col. 5
     
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  15. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    You asked a question. I replied I did not know and offered an opinion. There has been some movement.
    You mention a crack. What happens when a die gets a crack? Metal is forced into the crack because of pressure, etc.
    What about the other crack?
    What about the rounded column?
     
  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    These are birth defects. Nothing more nothing less.
     
  17. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    ?:hilarious::hilarious:.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    And they drive themselves insane peering through microscopes in a relentless effort to identify them because some idiot as nearly insane as they are said they're tantamount to finding buried treasure... If that don't beat all...
     
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  19. Leonard Quick Sr

    Leonard Quick Sr New Member

    No matter what you find. If you put it on this page someone will put it down because they don't like it. If a coin is struck and it is the fault of the Die, the US Mint is responsible for it. I don't care if it is a loose die, a cracked die, etc. If it passed through the Minting Process it is a COIN...
     
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  20. RBurk

    RBurk Active Member

    Man, you guys are rough! As I said I am a novice. The similarity if the extra metal shape compared to pot is striking to me. Humor me here. The edges are smooth and sharp, just like the other details of the coin. It flows perfectly from the floor. Might this be a test coin from a new or repaired (if they even do that) master die. I quote from https://varietyerrors.com/coins/coin-dies-made-little-history/.


    "By the end of 1996 the new single-squeeze hubbing presses were also installed in the Philadelphia Mint’s die shop so that in 1997 they too began producing dies with the single-squeeze hubbing process. In 1997 some of the problems with the single-squeeze hubbing presses were eliminated and the quarter dies began to be produced by the single-squeeze hubbing method.

    Both facilities, Denver and Philadelphia, continued to have problems producing half dollar dies with the single-squeeze hubbing method. Those problems were soon eliminated as well. The Mint subsequently announced that beginning in 1999 all U.S. coinage dies were being produced using the new single-squeeze hubbing process."

    It goes on to say (though this is referring to coins minted after 2008)

    "Once the master hub is created, it is used to make some test dies that strike sample coins. If there are any problems, the design can be tweaked in the computer and a new master hub created. Once the Mint is satisfied that all is as it should be, the master hub is used to make the appropriate master dies. The remainder of the process remains the same with the master dies being used to create the working hubs, and the working hubs then being used to make the working dies that will be used to strike the coins."

    Surely they must have made made sample coins prior to 2008 though, this strikes me as a possibility.


    Likely? No. But possible? You tell me.
     
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  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I rather look at it like after coming here in their whirlwind they're getting their dose of reality for the first time. No wonder some of them feel offended, they're too stupid not to feel that way.
     
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