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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 3529169, member: 84744"]Tooling is a matter of degree, and it's fairly silly for NGC to "body bag" any ancient coin that has even a microscopic amount of detectable tooling, as though there's some definitive line to be drawn between OK and not OK. The question for each collector is how much tooling is too much? Our answers to that question vary a lot, and they will vary depending on the coin. We've also seen egregious cases in this forum that are laughable, and that nobody would want in their collection (except as a joke piece). </p><p><br /></p><p>Personally I'm not that keen on the Hadrian, more because of the smoothing (I expect the tooling is minimal); but I also think the price was appropriate for the coin, you weren't at all ripped off. I doubt you were ripped off by the others either. I will say that I think Frank's attitude to tooling (and especially smoothing) is pretty relaxed. That doesn't stop me from bidding in his auctions, it just informs my bidding.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a beginner coming from modern coins, you're inclined to be unhappy with any amount of tooling. As you become more experienced, you might find that a little bit is sometimes acceptable.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have no doubt that both auction houses will accept returns if you're unhappy with the amount of tooling on the coins (and if there is indeed some tooling).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 3529169, member: 84744"]Tooling is a matter of degree, and it's fairly silly for NGC to "body bag" any ancient coin that has even a microscopic amount of detectable tooling, as though there's some definitive line to be drawn between OK and not OK. The question for each collector is how much tooling is too much? Our answers to that question vary a lot, and they will vary depending on the coin. We've also seen egregious cases in this forum that are laughable, and that nobody would want in their collection (except as a joke piece). Personally I'm not that keen on the Hadrian, more because of the smoothing (I expect the tooling is minimal); but I also think the price was appropriate for the coin, you weren't at all ripped off. I doubt you were ripped off by the others either. I will say that I think Frank's attitude to tooling (and especially smoothing) is pretty relaxed. That doesn't stop me from bidding in his auctions, it just informs my bidding. As a beginner coming from modern coins, you're inclined to be unhappy with any amount of tooling. As you become more experienced, you might find that a little bit is sometimes acceptable. I have no doubt that both auction houses will accept returns if you're unhappy with the amount of tooling on the coins (and if there is indeed some tooling).[/QUOTE]
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