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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 3528871, member: 39084"]These pictures lack sufficient detail to speculate further on their condition, and there's nothing libelous or illegal about posting links to the original auctions to provide better pictures. You might want to do this.</p><p><br /></p><p>You should be aware that it's essentially impossible to determine the difference between a high-quality, highly detailed bronze that's been expertly cleaned vs. a tooled coin just by viewing a picture of that coin, no matter how detailed the picture. Don't be mislead by any such "expert" opinions regardless of by whom/where you read them. The best way to evaluate the condition of a bronze is to have a real expert examine it <i>in hand</i>, prior to purchase.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is a succinct and excellent definition of smoothing. I personally have no problem with such smoothing, except for coins in which it's extreme. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another way to look at smoothing is the following: at some point the ancient coin ceased circulating. When it did, it had some circulation wear, scratches, etc., and this is the true condition of the coin. Lying undiscovered for centuries or millennia resulted in deposits, detritus, etc. coming into contact and adhering to the coin's surface. Removal of this additional material, which is what I consider smoothing, does not alter the coin's condition when it fell out of circulation. This is why, in general, smoothing is generally regarded as benign, and not as tooling.</p><p><br /></p><p>You might want to read this previous thread on this site:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-much-tooling-can-you-tolerate.295345/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-much-tooling-can-you-tolerate.295345/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-much-tooling-can-you-tolerate.295345/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 3528871, member: 39084"]These pictures lack sufficient detail to speculate further on their condition, and there's nothing libelous or illegal about posting links to the original auctions to provide better pictures. You might want to do this. You should be aware that it's essentially impossible to determine the difference between a high-quality, highly detailed bronze that's been expertly cleaned vs. a tooled coin just by viewing a picture of that coin, no matter how detailed the picture. Don't be mislead by any such "expert" opinions regardless of by whom/where you read them. The best way to evaluate the condition of a bronze is to have a real expert examine it [I]in hand[/I], prior to purchase. This is a succinct and excellent definition of smoothing. I personally have no problem with such smoothing, except for coins in which it's extreme. Another way to look at smoothing is the following: at some point the ancient coin ceased circulating. When it did, it had some circulation wear, scratches, etc., and this is the true condition of the coin. Lying undiscovered for centuries or millennia resulted in deposits, detritus, etc. coming into contact and adhering to the coin's surface. Removal of this additional material, which is what I consider smoothing, does not alter the coin's condition when it fell out of circulation. This is why, in general, smoothing is generally regarded as benign, and not as tooling. You might want to read this previous thread on this site: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-much-tooling-can-you-tolerate.295345/[/url][/QUOTE]
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