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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Euro, post: 1088677, member: 28879&quot;]<font face="Tahoma">Even with just 1 or 2 per year per Euro member state, I believe that may result into problems in the future (but that assumption may very well be dead wrong). Apart from that I rather see &quot;real&quot; commemoratives instead of coins with limitations (as in: design on the “pill” only on 1 side only).</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Tahoma">As for the Dutch vijfjes I do not consider their designs innovative (sometimes I wonder why I collect them at all; to keep the collection complete, I guess). From a technical perspective yes, but as far as their designs are concerned, no. Most important to me seems variation in art and in that respect I think there is an issue with Dutch commemoratives no matter how innovative they may be. Ever since the first Beatrix coins designs have been mainly abstract (and in my opinion some of them are very poor indeed). Examples:</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="Tahoma">Circulation guilders: Beatrix&#039;s head half and stylized,</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">50 Guilders 1984: Beatrix in horizontal lines,</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">50 G. 1987: Beatrix in a single line (Btw, if you look on Ebay now for &quot;50 Gulden 1987 Netherlands Niederlande Pattern&quot; you can see a rare alternative 1987 design that was rejected; I wish that one had won instead!</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">50 G. 1988: Beatrix in crossed lines,</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">50 G. 1990: Beatrix in more or less vertical lines + heads of queens as &quot;lumpy masses&quot; ,</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">50 G. 1994, 1995, 1998: all stylized.</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">10 Euro 2002: Stylized portraits.</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">5 Euro 2003: Beatrix in letters</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">5 Euro 2004: Beatrix in a few lines</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">5 Euro 2006 (tax department): some small print (and a coin in a coin so a previous Beatrix design could be simply re-used?)</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">5 Euro 2008: Basically Beatrix in letters again</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">5 Euro 2009 (Manhattan): Beatrix design simply re-used (from 10 Euro 2002)?</font></p><p><font face="Tahoma">5 Euro 2009 (Japan): Previous Beatrix design simply re-used.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="Tahoma">Honestly, I couldn&#039;t tell which one I find most disappointing. Was it the 50 G back in 1987 or back in 1994, or the 5 Euro 2007, or perhaps the 5 Euro 2009 (Japan) or the latest waterland-vijfje?</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="Tahoma">None of this is meant offensive in any way! Art is all about taste and what one likes and if one likes abstract art Dutch vijfjes are paradise! A lot of them are also technically very innovative.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="Tahoma">However, I strongly believe that a country should have a design policy that allows for variety in art. One can forget about that in Holland: based on their history of commemoratives there clearly is a very strong tendency that one could describe as &quot;Dutch design contests end in abstract designs.&quot; If an artist would send in something entirely different, a Jugendstil-design just to mention something, he wouldn’t stand a chance no matter how skilful his design.</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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