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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;goldducat, post: 7946198, member: 37873&quot;]Of course I knew that, Doug. I only wanted you to be more cautious, especially writing about coin rarity. It is good that you are educating the younger generation and I have always supported it. Do what you are doing, but remember you are found to be a guy skilled in the Dutch coinage and people trust you. You are saying &quot;I only know 7 copies&quot; and many readers will use a shortcut: &quot;there is 7 copies known&quot;. So the only think I am asking you is to drop Delmonte&#039;s book when referring to rarity. It&#039;s very, very outdated.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason I wrote anything is a private message I received from a person this forum, with a question what I think about your information that &quot;the British Noble was actually copied from an earlier Dutch type coin&quot;. This is the only reason I have added a supplement and the only reason I am saying that your post could be understood incorrectly. Because it actually was understood incorrectly.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are right, you do not need to continue your research, and may use an &quot;old knowledge&quot;, which basically can be more or less ok, until a major change will happen and you miss it. For example, numerous rosenobles were discovered in the hoard of Randwijk, found in Nov 1987 and auctioned by Laurens Schulman auction house in Feb 1990. I cannot publish scans of the catalog here (due to copyrights), but I can tell you there were 542 gold and 36 silver coins in this hoard. Within this amount were 20 nobles (various provinces), 3 half nobles, 127 rosenobles (of which 28 &quot;Flemish&quot; Gorinchem type), 118 half rosenobles and three other types related to rosenoble (from the Utrecht and Zeeland mints).</p><p><br /></p><p>So, ONE (!) auction catalog includes 28 &quot;Flemish&quot; Gorinchem rosenobles. When you miss it, you miss everything for this coin type. Yeah, I know, noone knows everything. This is also why I am sharing it with you here.</p><p><br /></p><p>Speaking of the &quot;Flemish&quot; Gorinchem rozenobles, I estimate their rarity - keeping up the Delmonte&#039;s rarity scale - as R. Personally, I know no less than 50 (fifty) different copies of this type and had about 10 of them in my hands (private collections and musea). Btw, for this particular type no less than 8 obverse and 8 reverse dies were used; you have all 16 legend varieties listed in the aforementioned auction catalog. So we may say it&#039;s almost a common type <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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