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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Drusus, post: 463224, member: 6370&quot;]I think people should be railing about improperly cleaned coins...but instead I see so many people here saying, without any further explanation, &#039;DONT EVER CLEAN A COIN EVAR!!&#039; or like a saw a member here the other day saying in a blanket statement <b>&#039;well, you cleaned it so whatever worth it might have had is now lost&#039;</b>...This was before he knew HOW it was cleaned or even saw an image of the coin...he just told the guy he ruined the coin by cleaning it. This is the behavior I speak of. Instead of dealing with each coin, they make blanket statements... cleaning is bad...Few actually try to let the person know some minor steps one could take to help...so they either walk away thinking I either send the coin to someone and pay them to clean it, write the coin off, or live with an ungly coin that might be almost perfect save for some dirt and heavy tone. OR...because coin people gave no cleaning tips, they try it one their own with no advice and end up ruining the coin.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Maybe my mind is warped, but correct me if I am wrong but you pay higher prices for a coin that has a rainbow tone correct? Rainbow tones that can be made very quickly in my kitchen...think you can recognize so called NT from AT? Bet you you think you can <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> We obviously have a very different view of how to approach coin collecting because paying a premium for colored coins, which I feel are often unattractive save for maybe just a hint of color, is warped IMO.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have certainly purchased 1000+ coins <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> None of them slabbed and I sleep just fine at night thank you. Then again I dont just throw 1000 USD around without knowing what I am looking at.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>When I said that about black ugly coins, of course I meant many years which is why my example was a coin from the 1600. You see most coins we collect have been used, and haven&#039;t been stored in a vacuum save these god awful new coins that look like tokens. They might have even been touched and circulated!! If they ARE to be preserved for later generations then they will need to be worked on a bit then stored correctly and a slab has nothing to do with this...and certainly I dont want all my coins to be either black or locked behind plastic. The fact is, most coins that are worth 1000+ are older coins from long ago...if they are not black, most likely, they have been cleaned...90% of all of the most valuable coins have been cleaned...from ancients all the way to the 1800 and even early and mid 1900. Unless someone just used the harshest methods (and no, soft cotton cloths dont ruin coins!!), a nice coin should never been proclaimed worthless and I certainly wouldnt accpet it if it were.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes, I think plastic has ruined US coin collecting as a hobby IMO...You have people scouring the internet to find a coin, getting it slabbed and flipping it at a great profit...THATS a fact...<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> , raising the price of coins, seriously effecting values. I believe a lot of these people see these things as just a commodity, this is their right but the practice, if allowed to creep into a hobby, does change it for the worse in many ways as I have stated in detail many times before.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Here is a coin I own, one of many that is worth well over 1000 USD:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.cachecoins.org/furstenberg.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>When I got it from the previous owner who stored it in a desk drawer, it was black as night, I spent quite some time trying to thin out the black corrosion...would a TPG say its a problem coin? Maybe...do I care? not in the least....it will still sell for what it is worth. Would I ever think of putting such a nice coin behind a plastic sheen...not on your life..Do I have even the slightest doubt that it is real? Not at all...its a lovely coin. the one below is also a lovely coin...also it has been cleaned...also it will not lose a dime in value for it...I know this because I have had many offers.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.cachecoins.org/belgiuminsurection.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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