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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2371699, member: 1892"]"Dear PCGS,</p><p><br /></p><p>Please put down the crack pipe. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sincerely,</p><p><br /></p><p>Me"</p><p><br /></p><p>My mind, it is boggled. Where do I start? Um....well, it's B-3. We can tell that much.</p><p><br /></p><p>We know the shield lines can remain reasonably complete and sharp into well-circulated condition, so an obverse like this <b><i>WORN</i> into Good</b> (I'm being generous) condition can be accompanied by the appearance of much better shield detail. That said, given the corrosion, we really don't know how_much_detail is actually left on the reverse. The strict reverse detail visible here isn't far off Good itself - no real detail visible anywhere, just outlines.</p><p><br /></p><p>But think about it. The reverse is heavily corroded, and the obverse isn't. If the obverse was somehow protected from the corrosive process - let's postulate a shipwreck coin obverse-down in a stack or similar - then <i>the obverse is a fair representation of original condition</i>. If the obverse was so corroded that the owner - or PCGS - had to clean it to show the surfaces, <i>why is there still a little corrosion showing</i>?</p><p><br /></p><p>Acid wears all faces at an equal rate, so an Uncirculated coin losing this much detail to is wouldn't fit their pretty little holder - the diameter would have been eroded too.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think the seller puts it best:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>When a high-volume, Top-Rated seller inserts a caveat into the auction copy hinting at disbelief of the assigned grade - and this isn't "boilerplate" language for him; I checked other auctions - you need to stand back and think a bit.</p><p><br /></p><p>There isn't a snowball's chance in Venezuela that this coin is "Uncirculated." Logic dictates that we know it was at one point, but that point was over two centuries ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>Frankly, certain details make me suspect the thing's originality in the first place. The (viewer's) right wing has voids exposing what *seems* to be a nice flat field area, which is a bit of a red flag. I'm kind of bothered by the fact that the lettering/devices are so pitted from corrosion while the fields are so nice and flat, but I am <b>far</b> from experienced with evaluating coins at this level of corrosion so I could be completely off on this.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2371699, member: 1892"]"Dear PCGS, Please put down the crack pipe. Sincerely, Me" My mind, it is boggled. Where do I start? Um....well, it's B-3. We can tell that much. We know the shield lines can remain reasonably complete and sharp into well-circulated condition, so an obverse like this [B][I]WORN[/I] into Good[/B] (I'm being generous) condition can be accompanied by the appearance of much better shield detail. That said, given the corrosion, we really don't know how_much_detail is actually left on the reverse. The strict reverse detail visible here isn't far off Good itself - no real detail visible anywhere, just outlines. But think about it. The reverse is heavily corroded, and the obverse isn't. If the obverse was somehow protected from the corrosive process - let's postulate a shipwreck coin obverse-down in a stack or similar - then [I]the obverse is a fair representation of original condition[/I]. If the obverse was so corroded that the owner - or PCGS - had to clean it to show the surfaces, [I]why is there still a little corrosion showing[/I]? Acid wears all faces at an equal rate, so an Uncirculated coin losing this much detail to is wouldn't fit their pretty little holder - the diameter would have been eroded too. I think the seller puts it best: When a high-volume, Top-Rated seller inserts a caveat into the auction copy hinting at disbelief of the assigned grade - and this isn't "boilerplate" language for him; I checked other auctions - you need to stand back and think a bit. There isn't a snowball's chance in Venezuela that this coin is "Uncirculated." Logic dictates that we know it was at one point, but that point was over two centuries ago. Frankly, certain details make me suspect the thing's originality in the first place. The (viewer's) right wing has voids exposing what *seems* to be a nice flat field area, which is a bit of a red flag. I'm kind of bothered by the fact that the lettering/devices are so pitted from corrosion while the fields are so nice and flat, but I am [B]far[/B] from experienced with evaluating coins at this level of corrosion so I could be completely off on this.[/QUOTE]
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