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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 5002818, member: 96900"]If you can find specimens from the same dies from earlier and with same and later die state but without this "ghost lines" then they were not in the original dies, because it would mean that the ghost lines instead of dotted border appeared at a sepcific die state but were not present anymore at a later die state, so the original dies, to be exact there the dotted border, must have been recut prefectly in later die state exactly the way it was in its earlist die state which is impossible.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fresh dies normal dotted border</p><p>later die state normal dotted boder</p><p>later die state ghost lines instead of dotted border</p><p>Latest die state normal dotted border again</p><p><br /></p><p>If this is the case here, than it would speak for transfer die fakes or cast fakes.</p><p>because you need to get in later die state back from ghost lines to normal dotted border and this can only be done by perfect recutting, which is imho impossible.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have not found there ("Joaquim Blay's website)</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.qblay.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.qblay.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.qblay.com/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>the specimen sold in CNG auction 51 lot 1305 (the most likely best preserved specimen from these dies and so very helpful for die study)</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/cng_51/148" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/cng_51/148" rel="nofollow">https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/cng_51/148</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 5002818, member: 96900"]If you can find specimens from the same dies from earlier and with same and later die state but without this "ghost lines" then they were not in the original dies, because it would mean that the ghost lines instead of dotted border appeared at a sepcific die state but were not present anymore at a later die state, so the original dies, to be exact there the dotted border, must have been recut prefectly in later die state exactly the way it was in its earlist die state which is impossible. Fresh dies normal dotted border later die state normal dotted boder later die state ghost lines instead of dotted border Latest die state normal dotted border again If this is the case here, than it would speak for transfer die fakes or cast fakes. because you need to get in later die state back from ghost lines to normal dotted border and this can only be done by perfect recutting, which is imho impossible. I have not found there ("Joaquim Blay's website) [URL]http://www.qblay.com/[/URL] the specimen sold in CNG auction 51 lot 1305 (the most likely best preserved specimen from these dies and so very helpful for die study) [URL]https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/cng_51/148[/URL][/QUOTE]
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