Need some sage advice....

Next week, my friend from Montreal is proposing a new trade (Butterfies for Aurei) First trade is this nice Numerian aureus for $60K in butterflies. He said he paid that for this coin in 2002 auction. It was graded virtually FDC by Sothebys....bck then. Any thoughts????
John

 

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Some sage advice . . .
If you want the sage to have a more noticeable presence in your meal use cut sage instead of ground sage. Sage pairs well with lamb, but use it in moderation as many people find it to have a medicinal flavor.

Seriously though, you are going to have a hard time catching $60k in butterflies this time of year, especially in Canada.

Seriously seriously though, I have never had any interest in collecting butterflies and know nothing of the hobby so I would take the trade in a heart beat.

 

I am not a sage; maybe 33% of the age required; but, I would say it's a good deal based off the most recent number this coin demanded at auction. In Numismatica Ars Classica's 78th auction, May 26th, 2014, this same coin brought a 75,000 CHF Hammer. The USD to CHF exchange rate in May 2014 was 1.12; bringing the effective USD Hammer to 84,000 USD. With NAC's 20% buyer's fee, the shipped to door price was 100,800 USD+. Definitely subjective in the Ancient Coin Realm; but one could even consider the additional 4.7% USD inflation rate in the last 4 years; bringing the 2018 translation number to 105,537 USD.

 

P.S. don't show him this post; lest he ask for an additional 40K in butterflies. (never thought I'd form a sentence like this before.)

 

Thanks, these are all African swallowtails, I paid around 15K for them, today they are valued at 60K. I will take your advice/ and Iamtiberius mathematical logic to take the offer. I still have another million dollars in butterlies that he craves to own. For him its a great deal too, my bug coll. was perfect AL quality/ great collecting data/ some now endangered sp.ssp.
John
My friend got a lot of his coins thru Ars Classica/ CNG/ NFA auctions

 

Thats OUR secret

 

What kind of outfit you running in Canada!?

 

A "one man" lawn maintenance business.....the only job I have ever had. No employees/ just a plain truck/equipment.
Go eight months full bore, then have Winters off. Still do some snow for pocket $ for snowmobiling trips.

 

That aroused ma curiosity... whit kind of ´gress´ ye wark???

 

I would never have thought that butterflies would demand that kind of money. They are pretty and I enjoy seeing them on my flowers but would make the trade at the drop of the peverial hat.

On a side note my best friend and I were about to be laid off from our jobs. We decided all we need is a truck and some tools and we would be able to scratch together a living. Had I known that it could be a very healthy living I might have not taken the job that was offered to me and bought the truck.

 

Those must be pretty special butterflies. By the way, I think I have a bunch of dead moths in my front porch light. I would be willing to shake them into a manila envelope and trade them even for Caligula sestertius. VF or better. Serious inquiries only. Somebody hit me up.

 

If you can afford it, the Numerian aureus is well worth $60k in butterflies.

I am starting to replace my portrait series with some gold. I would love that as my Numerian example.

 

Lemon and Sage chicken is great!


Nice looking coin by the way

 

Difficult to say P-man. Have you looked it up in acsearch to see what they are going for nowadays?

Here are some that sold over the last 15 or so years: prices are all over the place.
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=numerian aureus salus &category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=3&company=

Oh wait, I think I found it. The example you are being offered sold at NAC in 2014 for $84K.....



I think it is the same one.

Way beyond my league as to what to do.
I think I would save the money and buy a sports car. Always wanted one.

I think i can be of more help, not with a 'sage' advice like paddyman98, but with thymian/rosemary advice:

Simply grind fresh or dry thymian and some rosemary, together with 1 tsp. cumin seeds, 1 tsp oregano, 1 clove garlic, pepper and salt. Add some vinegar, 2 tbsp soy sauce and some dark beer if you like. Grind to a paste-like or thick liquid consistency.
Marinate chicken pieces in this for about 4-8 hrs. Put on the barbecue. You have never tasted anything like it. You will thank me for this .

 

Thanks for all the great advice/ also cooking hints. My only addiction is food Also use sage in poultry dressing. German recipe for goose/duck/rock cornish hens. Fry pound chicken livers with pureed onions/ fry until they are nice and brown.Then cut fried livers into small bits. Take one whole grain bread, cut slices into tiny cubes/ add this to 2 cups chicken bouillion. In a large bowl mix soaked bread cubes in with liver/onion bits. Add SAGE/ rosemary/marjoram/thyme/poultry seasoning. Stuff into bird/ both ends/secure. Then put bird into oven. When cooked, all the gooss inner fats will soak into yummy dressing

 

Yes, some rare beetles/ butterflies fetch upto 30K for one specimen. With insects same rules as coins....rarity+quality=HIGH prices. My coll. was 95% AI=perfect, so it was/is worth a lot of $. Both hobbies also have crazy market trends. One is o. alexandrae (endangered) a AI pair sells on black market for 10K/ there are thousands in collections. Then we have the SS Central America treasure hoard of US 1857-S Double Eagles. Hundreds have been recovered, still on going. All coins were freshly minted, thus mint state 64/65/66/67. These still go for ridiculous auction prices 6-10K. Real price should be 3k/5K or less.

 

The kind that needs weekly mowing

 

How did he buy it in 2002 when it doesn't have a Sotheby's 2002 sale listed at NAC? And, if he bought it in 2002 but has it to trade now, why was it sold in 2014? Did he buy it back?

A Faustina Senior aureus you posted from a trade a while ago was also purchased recently. It strikes me as strange that this guy would be buying coins in the very recent past and then immediately selling them?