Need some help..Aphrodite.

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  1. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Picked up this coin to add to the 12 Olympians set from a reputable dealer on vcoins....
    Can't seem to find any images that look similar using the references stated by the seller...??? Is this coin really that rare??...Scarcity wasn't the reason why I bought this coin, I just wanted a nice Aphrodite coin that wasn't being described as 'Head of Laodice OR Aphrodite right'.
    LAODICEA AD LYCUM (Phrygia) 14mm/4.0gr. Ca 200-100 BC.
    Obverse: Draped bust of Aphrodite right, wearing stephane, hair in bun.
    Reverse: ΛAOΔIKEΩN. Aphrodite standing left, holding dove, rose with stalk to left.
    BMC Phrygia p.284, 27.

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    Here's the BMC plate coin (4)...The bust style looks really different? and is the same coin used as the example on wildwinds for both BMC27 and BMC29?
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    The closest style I've found is this one on vcoins....
    The sellers references...
    SNG Copenhagen 497; SNG München 340; SNG von Aulock -; HGC 7, 744
    SCARCE (R1 per HGC)......I just keep hitting dead ends! Can anyone help??
    It would be really appreciated...Thanks Paul...
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Nice coin!

    I happened to have HGC 7 next to me as I was reading your post. Here is HGC 744, which does look like yours. The weight range given is 1.36-3.25g, but probably yours is just an outlier.

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    HGC has BMC 27-30 as their 740. The weight range given for this is 2.28-4.41g, though the style of the bust as you can see from the BMC plates is quite different.
     
  4. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. I didn't even know that there were coins with Aphrodite on them. If you have trouble finding a coin in wildwinds then it is a strong indication that it is rare.
     
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  5. Sulla80

    Sulla80 one coin at a time Supporter

    It does seem to be an unusual coin, especially in such nice condition. You can find a few closer to yours with a search of ACSearch for "aphrodite rose dove" (solving for various spellings of Laodikeia) . One of the examples found is the plate coin (HGC 744) from @zumbly, sold in 2009 by CNG. And this one with two roses.
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Very nice, @Spaniard ! Aphrodite and her dove!

    Here is Venus in a similar pose holding a dove on this denarius of Faustina II:

    [​IMG] Faustina II, AD 147-175.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.30 g, 17 mm, 12 h.
    Rome, AD 158-161.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: Venus standing facing, head left, holding dove and scepter.
    Refs: RIC 730; BMCRE 167-68; RSC 255; Strack 520i; RCV 5266; CRE 236.
     
  7. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    @zumbly and @Sulla80....Thanks for the feedback and all the links really appreciated and with this new info will dig around a bit more.
    @Roman Collector...That's a nice looking Faustina, great toning!
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Very nice, @Spaniard


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    RR Cordius Rufus 46 BCE AR Den Jugate Dioscuri Venus scales S 440 Cr 463-1
     
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