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Message:: [QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1969578, member: 15929"]Virtually every example I have had in my hands had those obverse die markers and I do understand that die marriages come and die marriages go but the age of this particular die marriage tells me that both were retired at the same time. And yes, this is usually what I preach! These coins are truly ugly in Mint State condition as a lot of the specific details have been abraded off the coin. The stars below the Eagles Tail screams: WORN COIN! WORN COIN! Additionally, the die scratches on the obverse are interpreted by many as scratches on the coin. As such, many were typically thrown back into the bag without much consideration. My very forst example came out of a roll I purchased on eBay which graded MS63. An XF45 coin sold, around that time, on Teletrade for $345 so I was quite pleased. I traded that coin for a couple of grand worth of MS66 40% Business strikes AND a 1972/72. I figured, I found one once, I can find another one! WRONG! These are really tough to find in MS and forget about finding one in a slab since I seriously doubt that anybody would ever submit one for grading without that specific attribution. Anyway, back to the subject, yes, this particular die marriage has proven to be consistent and while Wiles Book does not mention the die markers on the obverse, it doesn't mean that they aren't consistently there. All based upon what I've seen.[/QUOTE]